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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/27/24
From: Ken Richardson <kenfrichardson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:16:56
Put a packing shim between the prop backplate and engine drive prop plate

On Mon, 28 Oct 2024, 09:07 James Kelly, <europajimkelly@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Airmaster owners.  I have a new Airmaster prop fitted by an aviation
> expert I understand that the clearance between the cowlings and spinner
> should be 6mm minimum to 12mm maximum.  I have only 3.5mm how can I make
> the adjustment ???
>
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024, 06:33 Europa-List Digest Server, <
> europa-list@matronics.com> wrote:
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>>      1. 03:29 AM - Recommendations VP Prop  (Paul Hawkins)
>>      2. 03:41 AM - Re: Recommendations VP Prop  (Alan Burrill)
>>      3. 03:49 AM - Re: Recommendations VP Prop  (William Daniell)
>>      4. 05:52 AM - Re: Recommendations VP Prop  (Raimo Toivio)
>>      5. 09:03 AM - Re: Recommendations VP Prop  (Bud Yerly)
>>      6. 10:07 AM - Re: Recommendations VP Prop  (Peter Z)
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>> ________________________________  Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
>>
>> Hi chaps
>>
>> I=92m looking for recommendations for a VP prop for my trike XS Europa, I
>> n
>> eed help on this one I would appreciate your response.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________  Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
>>
>> I=99m very pleased with my Airmaster.
>>
>> Very Robust
>> Very well made.
>> Good Performance improvements over my fixed pitch warp drive.
>> Maintains RPM set
>> 2000 hours between overhauls and with 100hour maintenance intervals.
>> Support is good and we have the European agent as Europa Owner.
>>
>> It=99s the heaviest of the VP props at 26lb
>> It=99s expensive.
>>
>> Wouldn=99t change it.
>>
>> Alan Burrill
>> G-OBJT
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 27 Oct 2024, at 10:30, Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com>
>> wro
>> te:
>> >
>> > =EF=BB
>> > Hi chaps
>> >
>> > I=99m looking for recommendations for a VP prop for my trike XS Euro
>> pa, I need help on this one I would appreciate your response.
>> >
>>
>> ________________________________  Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
>>
>> I have an airmaster which has worked well and with good service...
>> surprisingly quick considering the factory is in nz.
>>
>> William Daniell
>> +1 786 878 0246
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 12:30 Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi chaps
>> >
>> > I=99m looking for recommendations for a VP prop for my trike XS Eur
>> opa, I
>> > need help on this one I would appreciate your response.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ________________________________  Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
>> From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>>
>> I do agree, Alan!
>>
>> Perfectly happy with it since 2008 and through 800 hours.
>>
>> First coil change when used well over 600 hours (old ones were still
>> usable).
>>
>> Dirk van Oyen - Europa Pilot [Mono OO-145) and Airmaster Expert from
>> Belgium, flew to my place and completed also The Dynamical Balancing
>> with his pro equipment.
>>
>> It was good (value < 0,2 IPS by chance), but now its smooth like my
>> iX50M, value next to 0,00 IPS [inches per second].
>>
>> I have Warp Drive Blades and have been happy with them.
>>
>> During the coming decade (!) however they must be upgraded to the next
>> level, which are...any recommendations?
>>
>>
>> allekirjoitus2 Cheers, Raimo Toivio
>>
>> signature
>>
>> Europa XS Monowheel OH-XRT #417 2007
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>>
>> 37800 Akaa
>> FINLAND
>> p. +358 3 3753 777
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>> www.rwm.fi <http://www.rwm.fi/>
>> raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
>> Alan Burrill kirjoitti 27.10.2024 klo 12.40:
>> > Im very pleased with my Airmaster.
>> >
>> > Very Robust
>> > Very well made.
>> > Good Performance improvements over my fixed pitch warp drive.
>> > Maintains RPM set
>> > 2000 hours between overhauls and with 100hour maintenance intervals.
>> > Support is good and we have the European agent as Europa Owner.
>> >
>> > Its the heaviest of the VP props at 26lb
>> > Its expensive.
>> >
>> > Wouldnt change it.
>> >
>> > Alan Burrill
>> > G-OBJT
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On 27 Oct 2024, at 10:30, Paul Hawkins
>> >> <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi chaps
>> >>
>> >> Im looking for recommendations for a VP prop for my trike XS Europa,
>> >> I need help on this one I would appreciate your response.
>> >>
>>
>> ________________________________  Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
>>
>> Paul,
>> In my over 20 years dealing with the Airmaster (and Europa) I think my
>> webs
>> ite has all the information you need on choosing a constant speed
>> propeller
>> .  (Keep in mind this is not a variable pitch only propeller, it is a
>> const
>> ant speed propeller.)
>>
>> The Europa with a 914 and Airmaster AP 330 three blade or AP420 two blade
>> t
>> ransforms the aircraft into a good economical 10,000+ ft cruiser.  The 64
>> i
>> nch propeller length is considered maximum for the Europa due to ground
>> cle
>> arance.  I would not go any longer.
>>
>> On the 912S (100 HP) Rotax, it is excellent for shorter takeoff and gives
>> y
>> ou the best for optimum low altitude cruise in the normally aspirated
>> Rotax
>> .  With a fuel leaning kit (HacMan), fuel efficiency improves at cruise
>> at
>> 7500 feet and you can pick up a bit of speed also.  Your country
>> regulation
>> s must be adhered to concerning modifications to an engine.
>>
>> Attached is my now very old and hated by the prop blade manufacturers
>> infor
>> mation pdf on choosing the right blade for constant speed propeller
>> operati
>> ons on the Rotax.  Nothing good happens after 67 to 68 inches on a Rotax
>> ev
>> en with a constant speed hub, but people keep trying.  It is a short read
>> a
>> nd goes into why this is true.  In all honesty, blade manufacturer
>> performa
>> nce is negated as the "performance is in the hub".  Changing the pitch
>> with
>>  speed is the key to performance.  I'm including the installation manual
>> fr
>> om Airmaster as well for your review.
>>
>> The Airmaster is more expensive than some of our European competitor prop
>> b
>> uilders but when it comes to ease of installation, builder maintenance,
>> rel
>> iability and quick turn around on parts, the Airmaster has never left me
>> st
>> uck out.  It is amazingly reliable.  Service the hub once a year, change
>> th
>> e brushes around 300-500 hours and look at your blades for damage as on
>> any
>>  propeller.  Yes, you have to maintain an aircraft.  No engine, prop, or
>> el
>> ectronic do dad works forever as humidity, age and lack of use or
>> attention
>>  often shows up.  The controller is almost bullet proof, but switches can
>> g
>> et corroded if kept near the salt water or the plane has sat in a humid
>> env
>> ironment for months on end without use.  Simply clean your brush ring,
>> clic
>> k and wiggle switches that may corrode and if necessary, call a dealer or
>> A
>> irmaster direct with your issue and you will find troubleshooting is very
>> s
>> imple on any electric constant speed.  The hub is strong and reliable,
>> and
>> the motor and switches in the hub are better than those 20 years ago.
>> Airm
>> aster is constantly improving their product.
>>
>> Final thoughts:
>> The two blade AP420 is lighter at 19 pounds, and the three blade AP330 is
>> s
>> moother at 26 pounds.  Speed difference is negligible ranging from 0-5
>> Knot
>> s depending on altitude, RPM, and engine.  The trigear cowl removal is
>> easi
>> er with the two blade on the Europa.  If you have a Rotax belt drive
>> altern
>> ator, use the mini-slip ring through the prop shaft.  Note that there can
>> b
>> e some interference from these alternators windings but there is an easy
>> wo
>> rk around for those noisy field windings on these Denso type
>> alternators.
>> There is no problem with the Rotax / Ducati alternator or interference
>> with
>>  the propeller.
>>
>> I like to fly and look myself at equipment before I buy.  I talk to
>> owners,
>>  but still do my own research.  I suggest you do the same.  You will be
>> har
>> d pressed to find a disappointed Airmaster owner.  A rule of thumb is if
>> th
>> e plane looks nasty and is not well kept, the owner may not be taking
>> best
>> care of his airplane, but somehow the Airmaster soldiers on even when
>> negle
>> cted.
>>
>> In the UK, your nearest dealer is Dirk Oyen in Belgium.  He will set you
>> up
>>  with a demo and or there are many UK owners with the Airmaster. He is
>> very
>>  hands on and well versed in the Airmaster operations and any
>> maintenance.
>>  Contact for Dirk:  Hemelrijk 61, Heusen-Zolder, Limburg 3550, Belgium.
>>  E
>> mail: dirk.oyen1@telenet.be<mailto:dirk.oyen1@telenet.be> ,  Phone: +32
>> 477
>>  25 80 28
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Bud Yerly
>> Custom Flight Creations
>> US Airmaster Dealer
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> <owner-europa-list-server@matr
>> onics.com> on behalf of Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2024 6:28 AM
>> Subject: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
>>
>> Hi chaps
>>
>> I=92m looking for recommendations for a VP prop for my trike XS Europa, I
>> n
>> eed help on this one I would appreciate your response.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________  Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Z <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Recommendations VP Prop
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