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Re: Master Relay

Subject: Re: Master Relay
From: Robert L. Nuckolls III <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:06:15

>I have a 75 AA5 which will not disengage the master relay in flight when
>the alternator is charging (you cannot turn off the master switch and
>disconnect the buss during flight).  It works ok on the ground when the
>engine is not running. 

  Without seeing wiring for the airplane, I'll have to make
  some assumptions. Many TC and amateur built airplanes
  have classic split rocker switch for battery and alternator
  control which is INTENDED to prevent battery disconnection
  any time the alternator is operating. A mechanical internconnect
  allows the alternator to be shut off with battery still on
  and shuts of battery any time the alternator is shut off.

  The reason for this is because most alternators do not run
  well with the battery off line.

  If you have two separate switches for altenrator and battery,
  it may be that the alternator switch is two-pole with one
  side used to switch alternator field, the other used to make
  sure the battery contactor stays closed any time the alternator
  is on.

>There is a diode from the battery terminal to the
>solenoid energize terminal.  Do you suppose that this could be a factor if
>it has failed?  Or do oyou think that maybe somebody has done some wiring
>changes such that the alternator is feeding voltage to the master relay
>solenoid terminal so that it cannot be disengaged.

  Most diodes were added to battery contactors as a spike
  catcher for the little bit of engergy that's stored in
  the contactor's magnetic circuit. I cannot deduce from your
  words exactly how this diode is wired but I suspect you're
  speaking of a three-terminal contactor with a (+) or 
  banded end of a diode attached to the big "BAT" terminal
  and the other end attached to the small coil terminal.
  This is a conventional use of a diode for spike catching.
  Failure of the diode (either open or shorted) would not
  produce the symptoms you describe.

  In any event, opening the battery contactor in flight without
  also shutting down the alternator is generally not a good
  idean.


       Bob . . .
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