Thank you Klaus for your comments, and thank all of you for the responses to my
earlier post.
At the risk of throwing gasoline on a smoldering fire, let me please try to
make myself more clear.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THE CRITICISM CAME ANONYMOUSLY IS GOOD.
My curiosity would, of course, be served by knowing who said what. That way, I
could put names with comments, and judge them accordingly. BUT, that's just
the point. The criticizers obviously want us to judge the comments on their
own merits, without resort to the filtering which might accompany knowing who
the writer's identity.
at this point, I have no further comment on the content [or motivation] of the
criticism. My only point today is to say that I for one will refrain from
thinking poorly of someone who felt that it would be difficult to put his or
her name to these criticisms. If anything, our calling them names for having
the audacity to criticize without us being able to call them names to their
faces appears to confirm what I think must have been their motivation to go
anonymous.
after having invested so much money, time, separation from loved ones, etc. to
buy and build the kit, I am sure that it is hard for some to accept criticism
about the project. I only hope that we can begin to take it gracefully.
At Monday 3/1/99 04:03 PM, you wrote:
>Hi Anonymous,
>
>there is nothing wrong to articulate your critics; however doing it
>anonymously proves not a great sense of maturity....
>Yes, Ivan did the take off and landing on my demo flight; so what. I did'nt
>have any experience in the Europa and I would'nt give demo flights without
>doing take off and landings my self.
>Yes, it took me about 2000 houres to finish my Europa; and I loved evry
>minute of it; and I very much miss the building now....If you want to fly
>tomorrow just buy a C150....
>Yes, I trust Ivan, Andy and the team at Europa. I always got excellent
>support and always a prompt reply to all my questions and requests. This is
>true for all my fellow builders here in Austria (there are about 10 right
>now)
>Yes, my Europa performs as promised. 130 kts top and a honest 120 cruise on
>16 l/h. I have now 150 hours cross country all over Europe and never
>enjoyed flying more.
>Yes, I bent my prop on my 10th landing after bouncing ....I changed the
>prop and was flying again the following WE.
>Yes, I am only an average pilot with some 700 hours on Cessnas, Pipers,
>some gliders and motorgliders so the Europa is my first unconventional,
>monowheel, retractable, high performance plane. A friend of mine who has
>more taildragger experience than I do, did never have any problem with the
>ground handling of his monowheel Europa. And there is still the
>trigear.......
>Yes, the monowheel Europa's ground handling is different, but if you get
>proper training it's not more difficult than a Piper Cub or an Dimona or
>Falke Motorglider. The thing is, you have not to be too proud getting such
>training with an experienced pilot....other wise you will inevitably bent
>something sooner or later......
>
>
>Yes, I would do it all again
>
>Klaus (kit 132, first flight 29. 4. 97)
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Alfonso C. Fuller, Jr. mailto:alfuller@webworldinc.com
Anaheim Hills, CA [Southwestern USA]
'89 FJ-62, mostly stock. Europa XS to be built......
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Thank you Klaus for your comments, and thank all of you for
the responses to my earlier post.
At the risk of throwing gasoline on a smoldering fire, let me please try
to make myself more clear.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THE CRITICISM CAME ANONYMOUSLY IS GOOD.
My curiosity would, of course, be served by knowing who said what.
That way, I could put names with comments, and judge them
accordingly. BUT, that's just the point. The criticizers
obviously want us to judge the comments on their own merits, without
resort to the filtering which might accompany knowing who the writer's
identity.
at this point, I have no further comment on the content [or motivation]
of the criticism. My only point today is to say that I for one will
refrain from thinking poorly of someone who felt that it would be
difficult to put his or her name to these criticisms. If anything,
our calling them names for having the audacity to criticize without us
being able to call them names to their faces appears to confirm what I
think must have been their motivation to go anonymous.
after having invested so much money, time, separation from loved ones,
etc. to buy and build the kit, I am sure that it is hard for some to
accept criticism about the project. I only hope that we can begin
to take it gracefully.
At Monday 3/1/99 04:03 PM, you wrote:
Hi Anonymous,
there is nothing wrong to articulate your critics; however doing
it
anonymously proves not a great sense of maturity....
Yes, Ivan did the take off and landing on my demo flight; so what. I
did'nt
have any experience in the Europa and I would'nt give demo flights
without
doing take off and landings my self.
Yes, it took me about 2000 houres to finish my Europa; and I loved
evry
minute of it; and I very much miss the building now....If you want to
fly
tomorrow just buy a C150....
Yes, I trust Ivan, Andy and the team at Europa. I always got
excellent
support and always a prompt reply to all my questions and requests.
This is
true for all my fellow builders here in Austria (there are about 10
right
now)
Yes, my Europa performs as promised. 130 kts top and a honest 120
cruise on
16 l/h. I have now 150 hours cross country all over Europe and
never
enjoyed flying more.
Yes, I bent my prop on my 10th landing after bouncing ....I changed
the
prop and was flying again the following WE.
Yes, I am only an average pilot with some 700 hours on Cessnas,
Pipers,
some gliders and motorgliders so the Europa is my first
unconventional,
monowheel, retractable, high performance plane. A friend of mine who
has
more taildragger experience than I do, did never have any problem
with the
ground handling of his monowheel Europa. And there is still the
trigear.......
Yes, the monowheel Europa's ground handling is different, but
if you get
proper training it's not more difficult than a Piper Cub or an Dimona
or
Falke Motorglider. The thing is, you have not to be too proud getting
such
training with an experienced pilot....other wise you will inevitably
bent
something sooner or later......
Yes, I would do it all again
Klaus (kit 132, first flight 29. 4. 97)
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Alfonso C. Fuller, Jr.
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Anaheim Hills, CA
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[Southwestern USA]
'89 FJ-62, mostly stock. Europa XS to be built......
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