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Subject: Smooth Prime??
From: JohnJMoran@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:52:50
The application of Poly-Fiber's UV Smooth Prime has proven more of  a 
challenge for this non-painter than expected.

In my innocence, I thought I had eliminated most of the pinholes using filler 
- none were apparent after vacuuming the surface.  Washing with Poly-Fiber's 
soap made pinholes appear in a number of places -- apparently, the pinholes 
were filled by dust during sanding which was removed by washing.

I applied 2 un-thinned coats using the the suggested foam roller. On drying, 
this had the texture of  about 180 grit sandpaper. It filled most pinholes 
nicely and where the pinholes weren't filled by normal rolling, scrubbing 
back and forth with the rounded end of the roller followed by re-rolling did 
the trick.  However, one or two defects larger than a pinhole - perhaps 1/16 
inch diameter -  were apparent after the initial coats of paint.  A dab of 
Smooth Prime applied with a toothpick to these left a little blob proud of 
the surface; after drying, the blob was shaved off with a sharp wood chisel.  
Save a little smooth prime from the roller tray in a 35mm film container for 
application by toothpick the next day but  be sure to use it within a day or 
discard it since the crosslinked paint deteriorates quickly.

I was unclear on how to get rid of the rough texture so I tried sanding prior 
to spraying the next 3 coats.  Further trials seemed to indicate that this is 
the wrong thing to do: the smooth surface is much more prone to develop sags.

After more trial and error I found that for me the best approach was to thin 
the Smooth Prime slightly prior to rolling, about 2 oz of water per 16 oz of 
paint. This seemed to result in less texture due to the roller and better 
coverage from the initial 2 rolled coats.  

One observation on rolling Smooth Prime is that it dries very rapidly, so 
rapidly that it thickens around the plastic center of the roller where the 
handle enters the roll.  This thickened paint will occasionally leave a 1/4 
inch wide track when uneven pressure on the roller causes it to be depositied 
on the surface. Rolling back and forth over this line seems to remove it but 
later examination of the dried surface with a glancing light will show a 
raised line.  Wiping the end of the roller where the handle enters with a 
paper towel occasionally to remove the thickened paint helps to avoid the 
problem.  Failure to wipe the roller end when painting large surfaces like 
the wings can cause "flakes" of hardened paint to be deposited randomly on 
the surface.

For spraying I am using a Croix CX-9  HVLP system with 40 feet of hose (to 
cool the air) and a 1.2mm orifice with a 0.7M aircap, all courtesy of the 
local EAA chapter.

This spray system produces a slight "orange peel" in the finish despite my 
efforts to get a smooth finish to minimize sanding.  The Poly-Fiber pamphlet 
shows the orange peel effect of spraying Smooth Prime in one of the photos 
and indicates that it will smooth itself out as it dries.  I found that when 
applied according to the pamphlet it seems to dry with a definite orange 
peel, enough so that it takes a considerable time to sand down to a smooth 
finish.  The best finish I was able to obtain came by adding more than the 
recommended amount of water -- eventually settling on 5oz water per 16oz 
Smooth prime.  This is much more than recommended and was more difficult to 
apply without getting sags but produced much less surface texture resulting 
in considerably reduced sanding.  I avoid sanding between coats since the 
smooth sanded surface promotes sags.

Comments on other ways to minimize orange peel would be appreciated. As a 
non-painter, I have difficulty deciding which of the many variables to 
adjust. Trial and error with this paint is too costly and time consuming a 
way to improve results so some expert guidance would help.  In particular, 
would a smaller nozzle and/or bigger aircap be helpful?  How does Smooth 
Prime compare to Top Gloss as far as orange peel susceptibility is concerned?

On sag recovery: there is a "golden moment" when the Smooth Prime around the 
sag has dried and the sag itself is still wet.  If you can pick this moment 
(I've gotten some practice) then laying a paper towel over the sag and 
patting it lightly followed by peeling (not sliding) it off will make 
subsequent sanding much easier.  If a sag or drip has dried, a sharp wood 
chisel parallel to the surface will slice the thick portion of the drops off. 
 Scraping the high areas with the chisel held at 90 degrees to the surface 
followed by light sanding will complete recovery.

On the subject of surface defects, I note little grains protruding from the 
surface after spraying or rolling.  When  inspecting the surface with a 
glancing light, these grains cast shadows which look a lot like pinholes 
until you look closely. The trusty wood chisel removes them nicely.  Smooth 
Prime seems to dry on the outlet of the nozzle and little pieces break off 
and are deposited on the surface. Wiping the nozzle from time to time helps 
but doesn't eliminate this.  I hope that this is due to the "high build" 
nature of Smooth Prime and that it doesn't happen with Top Gloss.

I was originally going to build a wing holder to allow rotating the wing so 
that the surface could be held horizontal for spraying. Per Gemin's input, I 
just mounted the wings in holders so the LE was uppermost.  The wings are 
held by a "U" of plywood screwed to a trestle, clamping the spar extension to 
the trestle to prevent rotation.  An inverted "T" using an 18 inch square 
piece of ply on the floor with a 6 inch wide vertical piece braced by 45 
degree struts fits into the aileron closeout to hold the outboard end up - a 
pad of cloth prevents damage to the closeout paint which was applied earlier. 
 It is surprisingly stable and allows some sanding in this position although 
serious sanding is best done with the wing horizontal.

Suggestions on any aspect of painting would be helpful.

John   A044


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