Dear Ray,
Have I got a deal for you! I am in desparate need of selling an un-started
tail section, Stage One, kit # 169. Aside from the factory-completed "fast
build" work completed, I haven't done any additional work. The kit still
available, and is in climate-controlled storage in Northern Illinois. I'm
eager to sell, as this is not the proper time in my life to have additional
expenses. At the time that I purchased it, I paid $5000, but would accept
any reasonable offer.
I bought it as the "Fast Build Kit" also called the Accelerated Kit. That
was an upgrade, thrown in as an incentive to purchase at year-end.
As I purchased after attending their workshop at Lakeland, Florida (which I
highly recommend), they also included the optional speed kit upgrade. They
allowed me to decide which version I want, Tri-gear or Monowheel, and to
have it delivered at a future date. Since I haven't gotten that far, I
didn't have that delivered yet.
Here's how the Europa web site described what I purchased:
"Stage 1 (the tail kit - consisting of the tailplane, tabs, rudder,
flaps/spoilers, ailerons and hardware)."
"A pre-skinned stage 1 (including tailplanes, tabs, rudder, ailerons and
flaps) which will save the average first time builder around 200 hours."
"The Accelerated Kit technical specification:
Ailerons: Flaps or Airbrakes: Rudder: Tail Plane: Both skins glassed.
Hinges, mass balance horns and end close-out ribs to install. Both skins
glassed with center rib installed. Hinge arms and end close-out ribs to be
installed. Both skins glassed including bottom close-out. Hinges and
rudder horn to be installed. Both skins, outboard rib and all close-outs
glassed. Tabs removed and close-outs glassed. Internal and drive bushings
installed. Pip-pin holes jig drilled. Hinges and tab drive pin to be
attached."
Europa's web site discribed the speed kit as follows:
"Europa Optional Extras US $
Europa XS Tri-gear speed kit (wheel spats, flap hinge fairing) 725.00
Europa XS Monowheel speed kit (tailwheel spat, flap hinge fairing) 455.00"
Since their kit cost structure has been modified since my purchase, the
Lakeland office offered me credit for what I paid toward the balance of the
kit, when I am prepared to get stages 2 & 3.
Please feel free to ask any other questions that you may have.
Regards,
Rich
623-939-3299
rich_butler2@hotmail.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray M. Knapp" <rmkhomes@charter.net>
Subject: Convinced to Build!
> To All Europa Devotees:
> I recently became aware of the Europa through a friend who I
> discovered had built one. I have been researching (thanks to this fine
> Forum) and have become very impressed with the professionalism and
> helpful nature of so many participants. And thanks to several who so
> quickly replied to my query re: a searchable database of postings.
> Having decided to go ahead and build, and having discovered that
> occasionally, for numerous reasons, a builder has a change in plans and
> must sell either an un- or partially completed kit, I thought it could
> be mutually beneficial to ask of the Forum if any such projects are
> available for sale, preferably in the Western United States.
> Thanks to everyone, Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
> jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com
> Subject: Re: Web Site links
>
>
> Ray,
>
> There is such a beast (courtesy of Andrew Sarangan), as well as a list
> of FAQs that are very helpful to builders. Links to both are on the Club
> web site at www.europaclub.org.uk - follow the link to the Forum page.
>
> The Club also has an excellent booklet gathering together the best hints
> and tips, compiled by Dave Watts, with entries coming from the Forum,
> the factory newsletter, and the Club magazine "Europa Flyer". As a new
> builder 6 months ago, I found it very useful indeed - it flagged some
> difficulties I wouldn't have known to look for a solution for until too
> late!
>
> One of the most time-consuming problems I had initially was finding
> suppliers for all the little extras - acetone, mask and filters, Tyvek
> paper overalls, paper roll, syringes, etc. I'm putting my UK list of
> these up on the Club site ASAP, and hope those in other countries will
> respond to my call and help out with their lists.
>
> The two real pains to date have been acetone - in the UK most suppliers
> won't sell to individuals because they perceive a liability risk - and
> empty mastic/caulking tubes for the big Redux jobs. I spent 3 hours the
> other day just sourcing the tubes (and they had a minimum order size of
> GBP20, so if anyone in the Oxfordshire area needs some, get in touch!).
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
> Subject: Re: Web Site links
>
>
> Jeremy:
> On the note of reducing the "has anyone done ..." questions, I'm
> a soon-to-be new builder and really enjoy the obvious utility of this
> forum. But I'm hoping there is a searchable database of previous
> questions that I can interrogate in the attempt to minimize the dumb
> questions I'm likely to ask. Any suggestions?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
> jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com
> Subject: Web Site links
>
>
> I'm currently working on the links sections of the Europa Club web site,
> and just wanted to put out another appeal for useful links. In
> particular, I'd really appreciate any the following:
>
> 1) Regulatory bodies (the CAAs, EAAs, FAAs, and JAAs of this world)
> 2) Good suppliers (if possible, please include a couple of sentences
> about why you think they should be on the site - I'd like to include
> these recommendations with the links)
> 3) Mods - I've had no details of any individual (i.e. not Factory or
> Club) mods yet, and I'm sure we all remember what it was like when we
> started building and had no idea of what were good mods to include, and
> why. Please help your fellow Europa builders by putting forward details
> of your mods as examples to follow. We might even manage to reduce the
> number of 'has anyone done....' emails on the Forum!
> 4) Airfields - know any Europa-friendly airfields?
>
> I know I said this is a links section, but actually I am including some
> useful suppliers that don't have web sites, but which I have been lucky
> enough to discover (for example, I found an organisation that does
> acetone at a very competitive price and delivers to my door for free -
> although they don't have a web site, it's worth other UK-based Europa
> builders knowing about them). So if you know some good suppliers, even
> if it's just a local one-man-band who does upholstery, or
> aviation-standard welding, please let me have details, wherever you are
> in the world.
>
> I'm particularly keen to get some non-UK links - being UK-based, most of
> the suppliers and airfields I know about are in this country, and I need
> help making this site as useful as possible to our non-UK builders and
> fliers. So please, whether you are in the Americas, the Antipodes, or
> 'on the Continent', get in touch!
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Kind regards,
> Jeremy
>
> Europa Club Webmaster
> Europa XS monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>
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