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Re: Europa-List: Tailplane issue?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane issue?
From: Ed <bizzarro@easynet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 23:50:44

We had that issue too. We also fixed it by giving a gentle squeeze in the
vice. I suspect that the deformity comes after any welding but I'm not sure.
Ours wasn't bad enough to prevent the tube being inserted into the bush, but
it did cause it to bind every half turn. After vice squeezing it was fine.

Cheers Ed

on 9/4/03 11:37 am, Steve Hagar at hagargs@earthlink.net wrote:

> 
> 
> Ron:
> 
> I had a problem with the tube going into the bushings also, I figured there
> was not enough clearance. The problem however was that the toque tube was
> not completely round but slightly ovaled, as were some other individuals.
> Take a calipers  and measure several diameters on the end of the tube  to
> see if you are getting any variance. There doesn't have to be much. Mark
> the high spots and with a gentle hand and a large bench  vice squeeze them
> down to get a more round configuration.  This was a long time ago for me
> but I believe I was only out about .008 ~ .010 but it made a real
> difference.
> 
> Steve Hagar
> A143
> Mesa, AZ
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Ronald J. Parigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 4/8/03 9:24:55 PM
>> Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane issue?
>> 
> <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>> 
>>> Met up with Wayne tonight and took a look for first time at A-265 kit.
>>> After a bit of unpacking and looking at manual, descided to see how the
>>> torque tube fits into the accelerated tailplanes.
>> 
>> The torque tube had a little oil on it so descided to give it a try after
>> cleaning off a bit of resin, and cleaning out pip pin holes..
>> 
>> Left one went on but gets kinda tight when TP12 goes into TP13 bushings.
>> Wayne was warned it may be a bit tight.
>> 
>> Tried the right side. Horror. No way is it going to fit. TP4 tube hits the
>> edge of the burried TP6. Prior to trying a fitting, i cleaned a bit of
> resin
>> off of TP5. I looked at the edge of TP4 and it has a chamfer that goes at
>> least 1/2 the wall thickness. I light filed the chamfer to make sure, but
>> there is a definite alignment problem.
>> 
>> I made sure TP9 was positioned facing down.
>> 
>> This fitting was with the tailplane held by Wayne, and me holding the
> Torque
>> tube. mostly wiggle very little twisting.
>> 
>> Is it necessary to perhaps gorilla the tailplane onto a secure torque tube
>> to fit it?
>> 
>> I think if it were bonded with pieces aligned, the chamfer oin the torque
>> tube should be enough to get you into TP6.
>> 
>> I looked through the hole for the Pip pin, and it appears to be lined up
>> with TP6.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> I will call John at Europa tomorrow.
>> 
>> If my worst fears come about, and the alignment of TP6 is off, what would
> be
>> the best way of repairing?
>> 
>> I think a few years ago i read of this happening to someone else, and he
>> modified things. Can't remember what was said.
>> 
>> Is this a common problem?
>> 
>> Ron Parigoris
>> 
>> oh yea, our hangar was a little under 40 degrees F
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> --- Steve Hagar
> --- hagargs@earthlink.net
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