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Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa handling with subaru
From: Frank Wood <fswood@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:23:46

Hi Tom,You may want to have a look at the Jabiru 3300,I have one in my
Classic tri-gear and Mr Harrison in the U.K. has one, and,I am sure there
are a few others.It is not turbo charged like the 914 Rotax,but I am lead to
believe,that the HP is better at lower altitudes (below 10,000) and it does
not have reduction gearing being a direct drive.It is an aluminium block and
heads air cooled dedicated aircraft engine,there had been some cooling
issues with earlier models but those problems have been corrected to the
best of my knowlege.I do not know how they compare in price but it is worth
looking into.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tom@tompaul.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa handling with subaru


>
> this is a very interesting thread.  the props, the engine, the
> handling, the weights... it seems the europa has many personalities,
> depending on the powertrain combination chosen.  I am at least a year
> away from needing an engine, i think, so, with all my options open
> still, it is with great interest that i research the various
> possibilities.  The subaru seems attractive because of the power, as
> does the cam 125 for the same reason.  But i hate the thought of
> "spoiling" the fine Europa handling.  I don't really understand how
> this happens with polar inertia, blah, blah, but i trust that there is
> truth to it.  I guess it has to do with the hard-to-move effect of a
> hanging a heavy weight at the end of the stick.
>
> The Rospeller prop system seems wonderful but, with the dollar to euro
> ratio currently, it is very expensive.  around US$8k it seems, for the
> best package.
>
> The BMW is too anemic, no?  80hp?  I know Kim Prout has a wonderfully
> performing machine with a standard 912, so it CAN work, but people
> don't seem to be getting the factory numbers even with a 914.  What
> gives with this?  The factory claims a 170 knot cruise, but the figures
> reported from flying aircraft tend to hover around 140kts.
> I am leaning toward the 912S, i guess, since i live at sea level and
> don't have a surplus of the green stuff, though i am very open to other
> options.  I would love to stuff 150 hp in there somehow, but the weight
> of most engines seem very problematic.  I spoke with a gentleman from
> texas who is fitting an 0-200.  Has this been done before?  Is it a
> good option?
> So many choices.  Let's keep this thread going.
>
> Best,
> Tom Paul
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:04 PM, Runnymede73@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > whatever happened to the BMW motorbike engine installation?
> > i think one is flying in switzerland.
> > that gave 80+ horsepower. the only snag might be if one cylinder went
> > down
> > in flight. however the german firm who make the gearbox also convert
> > the heads
> > to 2 plugs
> > rgds
> > runnymede
> >
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