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Subject: Europa-List: New Ampreg 22 cont'd
From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:34:24

Nev,
Appreciating your comments, might I ask which other resin systems has 
Europa validated as approved substitutes for  SP Systems Ampreg 20? For a 
substitute resin system to be approved it would require a structural 
analysis, which would require the design load proprietary data to be made 
available. Has Europa ever made this data available, and would they in the 
future, and at what cost? So, if Ampreg 20 is not available any longer in 
countries around the world other than the UK, with shipping and normal 
delivery delays internationally delivering out of date product "off the 
ship", being a very old resin system with known handling and using 
hazards,  what do you suggest as an alternative system? I am luckily in the 
situation where all of my flight controls and flying surfaces have been 
made with Ampreg 20, and I am using Ampreg 22 for the less critical layups 
within the fuselage, but I am sure others may well like to hear your advice 
on resin system substitutions pertinent to structurally critical areas.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
P.S. Did SP Systems gain approval of Europa for the inclusion of a/c to be 
pictured on the Technical Data Sheet of the new Ampreg 22 resin system?


><neville@europa-aircraft.com>
>
>Hi All,
>Before you all go off and buy Ampreg 22, please note that Ampreg 22 has 
>not been qualified by Europa as an alternative to Ampreg 20. The physical 
>properties fall short of the Ampreg 20 system. Anyone building in the UK 
>would have to deal with the P.F.A. if they wish to substitute the 20 for 
>ANY other resin.
>  Cheers,
>Nev.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: New Ampreg 22
>
>
>Nigel and Co.
>If there is any intention to change resin systems might I suggest you take
>a look at the newer SP Systems product Ampreg 22. The specs are all but the
>same, or very similar to Ampreg 20, but it is a modern resin system
>specifically designed to reduce some of the dangers of use, along with
>providing a greater flexibility on how the product is used. The best thing
>is that there are at least 2 hardeners, one fast and one Slow or Extra
>Slow, and you can blend them as you please. Fast is really good for little
>layups that are non structural, as you can get on with things straight away
>the next morning. I haven't used it on any of my flying surfaces, only
>within the fuse, but I can certainly "sing its praises". If there is any
>doubt as to its suitability for Europas, a Europa is on its Technical Data
>Sheet! Also, it can be used down to 18 degrees Celsius without any major
>problem, therefore may well suit the basement work of those in the Northern
>Hemisphere.
>Rg
>Tony Renshaw
>Sydney Australia
>
>At 10:08 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >If I was looking for an alternative supply of epoxy resin I would look at
> >the German equivalent to Ampreg. One of the PFA inspectors who works with
> >composites says it is much better quality. Also I know that it also causes
> >less medical problems. One builder in a group had to give up the resin work
> >due to severe allergies but found when they switched to the German product
> >he had no allergic reactions.
> >
> >Nigel Charles
> >
> >
> >Broadband from an unbeatable 15.99!
> >
> >http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/home.html?code=SM-NL-11AM
> >
> >
>
>




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