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RE: Europa-List: Brake trouble

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Brake trouble
From: Alan Burrows <alan@kestrelinsurance.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:08:25

Sorry to jump in here guys, but you may like to contact Ivor Phillips
[ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com] as he has just helped me through this very
issue and has some spare sets of seals.
Cheers

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N55XS
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brake trouble


Richard Holder wrote:

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>
>
>Sorry to say this, but you won't have working brakes for more than a 
>year or two - or possibly less.
>
>The standard seals in the Jamar twin master cylinder are designed for 
>the use of automotive brake fluid Dot 3, 4 or 5.1. If you use ATF (or 
>the mil-spec aviation brake fluid) the seals will deteriorate.
>
>The bad news is that the standard seals in the callipers are designed 
>for ATF (or mil-spec aviation fluid) and if you use DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 
>THEY will deteriorate.
>
>This is why the factory specifies DOT 5 - silicone brake fluid which 
>will not affect either types of seal.
>
>I have decided to go Automotive - thanks to the help of Ivor Phillips 
>of this List. I had already messed up (testing) my master cylinder 
>seals with ATF so he provided me with new seals for the master 
>cylinder, the callipers and the Matco parking brake valve all to work 
>with Automotive brake fluid - I will be using DOT 5.1
>
>I admit that at the moment I am using two of the floor based master 
>cylinders, with the changed seals for tri-gear use, as finger style 
>brakes. I am used to them, but no way can they be described as easy ! 
>And in fact my co-builder filled the systems up with Automotive fluid 
>so I expect part of the sluggishness is due to swelled seals. I will be

>putting in the Jamar dual master cylinder at the time of the annual in 
>March. I am researching and getting everything together, ready !
>
>I will increase the power of the internal spring a little by putting in

>a flattened spring washer (maybe 1.5 mm thick) into each bore before 
>the spring ( which is followed by the piston ... Etc. I will be sure 
>that the spring washer is nice and clean !
>
>Richard
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>
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>
Richard,

Do you have specifications for the seals that you used?  Or better yet, 
manufacturer and part numbers?  Thanks,

-- 
Jeff - A055
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com




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