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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge
From: Simon Smith <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:32:04
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>

The pdf for mod 60 (fuel gauge) seems to suggest that it is not sufficient
to only have the float gauge and that a second method of verification is
required.

See item 10 at
http://www.europa-aircraft.biz/pdfs/modifications/Mod%2060.pdf

Regards

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge


--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" 
--> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>

Richard,

Because the means of measuring may be indirect (e.g. totaliser), and that's
what Engineering wanted if a variety of indirect means were used. Obviously
that contrasts somewhat with the Factory arrangements that allow just the
one gauge - sight tube or the magnetic float type, but that contrast is not
unheard of, is it? :-) Bear in mind, too, that capacitance gauges are
affected by changes in dielectric constant, as previously discussed - so
their suitability for sole gauging is questionable.

Those who want to use the Factory system are unaffected, of course, and can
just use that one. And those wanting to use just one system that isn't the
Factory one can apply for a mod accordingly.

As for all aircraft being required to have two systems - I'm not sure I
agree with your conclusion. It would certainly be seen by all as PFA
Engineering taking things too far and I, for one, very much doubt they would
even entertain such an idea!

Above all, mine is just a mod, not a standard!

Kind regards,
Jeremy


Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes
fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster
CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and
alarms


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge

--> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>

Jeremy Davey wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> 
> Nigel,
> 
> Agreed 100%. Club members will be interested to note that the mod I've
> put forward for conversion into a Standard Mod and mentioned in the 
> last Europa Flyer allows the sight gauge to be deleted IF AND ONLY IF 
> two systems differing in their operation are implemented for measuring 
> fuel level.
> 
> Such systems might include:
> 
> Capacitance gauges (see existing Club mod) Magnetic gauges (see
> Factory mod) Integrator (aka totaliser) Float gauge
> 
> While I wrote it to allow the generic case in order that it could
> become a useful standard mod, in my own case I am using twin 
> capacitance probes (one each side, although only one on the main side 
> is actually
> required) and an integrator.
> 
> Regards, Jeremy

Why are you changing the spec to a doubled up system ?

The original sight tube was perfectly acceptable as a
(single) means of checking fuel level. When the Europa fuel gauge came out
we fitted that (during the build) and deleted the sight gauge. So we still
had one means of checking the fuel level. No change.

So why now insist on two means of checking ? Completely unnecessary, AND
there is a danger that if it gets written into a standard mod that way there
will be a requrement for ALL aircraft to have two means of checking. And
that IS not needed at tthe moment.

I do of course record all the fuel I put in (on a sheet of
paper) and whenever I overdo it and the filler slops over I record the
approximate amount I put in and record that the tank was absolutely full at
that point. Over the 2500 litres I have put in so far the fuel burn has been
reasonably consistent, remembering I tend to only do short hops - 20 - 60
minutes.

Richard Holder
G-OWWW - 51 - High Cross







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