Bob,
Some stuff there I agree with, and some that I'm afraid I violently disagree
with!
The PFA isn't a subsidiary of the PFA, nor is it a monopoly. The system is
that you can build a plane and fly it on a CAA Permit to Fly. The costs
charged by the CAA for allowing you to do this are very high, so amateur
builders have clubbed together and formed the PFA to reduce this cost. If
you don't like the PFA system, you are very welcome to:
1) go direct to the CAA, or
2) try to change the PFA system
I'm trying to do 2), hence I stood for the EC. However, I'm constantly
staggered by the number of folks who are happy to lay into the PFA but run a
mile as soon as the suggestion is raised that they lift a finger to help fix
the problem!
If this issue is to be won with the PFA, it will require effective lobbying.
Someone needs to organise that, and I don't have the time to do anything
more than advise (plane-building, getting married, already helping run the
Europa Club, already trying to sort other things out at the PFA, moving
house, nowhere near retired, etc.).
In short, are you volunteering?
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1400 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R.C.Harrison
Subject: RE: Europa-List: PFA Feedback
Hi! All
At the expense of continuing this debacle I have to agree with Mark and
Neville, also everyone else has valuable contributions in stating their
opinions but in addition it has to be remembered that all this business
about an "association representing it's members" is somewhat a sham. The
PFA is in my understanding a regulatory branch of the CAA where
membership is compulsory and therefore in effect supposedly a friendly
licensing authority for "Flying for fun". For my humble opinion there
isn't a lot of friendliness about at present on this issue and "others
currently going through the system." The PFA are missing an opportunity
to put out a more human face on this blessed issue. It is preferring to
put it's head "you know where" and continue to allow the "subject jerk"
page space and so called "CREDITS" which ultimately gives him
promotional status which is the kind of "payment" he enjoys, along with
the fact that as a result of the "associated allegations" there is a
huge sum of money been taken out of the aspirations of many would be
builders pockets and the industry that would have swelled the PFA
"membership base" the most important goal needed.
I would call for some sanity to now be engaged and request the PFA to be
considerably and more promptly engaged with the "brotherhood and spirit"
of the diverse talents amongst homebuilders and so be more prepared to
understand the kind of expense and frustrations we have to bear by lots
of the actions it takes. In other systems of regulation our activity is
classed as "experimental" which carries a degree of awe but not
necessarily the level of engineering respect the industry should have.
The PFA should be looking to embrace a position somewhere between that
and which currently prevails even at the expense of loosing a few
pictures!
Sincerely
Bob Harrison (Not loosing my head like all around me YET! But there'll
be a couple of AGM's of interesting content!)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
NevEyre@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: PFA Feedback
Hi Roger / Gerry / Jeremy / Alan / William / Bob / et all........
I have been just as pissed off that KW is getting photo's ANYWHERE, not
just
in PF [ I would bet real money he IS getting money from the PFA] , and
there
are DOZENS of you out there , who I have spoken with recently, who feel
the
same.
HOW ABOUT ANOTHER FORM OF ATTACK ?
Whether he is getting money for the photo's, it is a comercial venture
he is
operating, do we know anyone in the C.A.A. who can look into the
legality of
useing PFA Permit aircraft, and C.A.A. non public transport cat'
aircraft for
aerial work ?
I know of many ''sorties'' carried out in the Europa demonstrators, if
he
ever recieved ANY money for ANY of those photo's, can we ''get the
ba**ard'' ?
You can also be sure, he will be at Kemble this year, and the PFA will
take
his photo's, unless we can get enough members to make enough noise ?
At the AGM, can someone propose that KW's work is vetoed, and get
enough
members there to force that through ?
Let's pull together on this ?
Cheers,
Nev.
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