Duncan, I find that on approach idling I have 550 fpm down (from memory) and
this increases to 700-750 down with full L. rudder side slip. Not dramatic
but if you have got a forced landing approach almost right it is a perfect
way of fine tuning. If you are way too high then S turns are the thing, but
they bring their own risks of course. Regards, David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skidded turn traffic pattern stall video
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
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> Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't find sideslipping a Europa to
be
> a beneficial means of losing height on the approach. That is (in addition
to
> the fact that sink rate isn't increased by much), given the lack of
> confidence in the ASI reading during a side slip, I always make sure to
> speed up a bit. That means extra speed when coming out of the side slip
and
> (if it's a short strip) a missed approach as a consequence. Or if the
height
> control is needed further out on the approach, S-turns will do the job.
> Co-ordinated of course!
>
> Duncan McF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skidded turn traffic pattern stall video
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> > <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
> >
> > William, For a gliding tug pilot landing over trees and slideslipping
down
> > to round out level was pretty much routine, and I have naturally
> > slideslipped my Europa when appropriate (such as PFLs) I have to say
that
> > it
> > has always behaved impeccably and felt entirely comfortable in the
> > slideslip. There is a natural tendency for speed to build up in the slip
> > unless you go out of your way to prevent it and I think it is very
> > unlikely
> > that someone would inadvertently stall in the process. Regards, David
> > Joyce,
> > G-XSDJ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wiilliam Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Skidded turn traffic pattern stall video
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> > <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
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> >> I thought that in sideslip provided you had nose well below the horizon
> > you
> >> were safe - obviously not. What happened?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
> >> Singleton
> >> Sent: 10 August, 2006 04:13
> >> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Skidded turn traffic pattern stall video
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> >> --> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
> >>
> >> William
> >> It certainly isn't impossible to spin from a sideslip. The "outside"
> >> wing is shielded by the fuselage so if speed gets too low the aircraft
> > will
> >> flick towards the outside wing. Did it in a Condor once.
> >> Graham
> >>
> >> William Mills wrote:
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> >> > I was instructed and have instructed these manoeuvres (in gliding)
> >> > without any problem and I have the belief that it is impossible to
> >> > enter a spin from crossed controls, because the inside wing is
> >> > leading. Has anyone else been instructed or has instructed this as
> >> > well, power or gliding?
> >> > Best wishes,
> >> > William
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