I have check and checked and found nothing. I have flown it five more times and
it is doing perfect. Everyone has good ideas and at annual in two months
sometingt
may shop up but for now it remains a puzzle.
Thanks,
Ken
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From: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
Remember the AeroPeru 757 that crashed into the ocean because the tape the
painted
had put over the static ports had not been removed?
Will
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Schultz
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 21:00
Subject: RE: Europa-List: surging engine on take-off
Ken,
This sounds a lot like the problem I had coming back from Oshkosh last year. My
problem was surging while in the air and the engine seemed to always work on
the ground. My problem was a plugged static pressure sender going to the TCU
control
circuit. Problems like this can be caused by the airbox or static pressure
sensors or a leak in anyone of those little black hoses. I pulled each off
house during troubleshooting my problem and used a small syringe to pressure
them up in some soapy water to look for pin hole leaks. My problem ended when
I pulled the static pressure sensor and found the end block with a rubber cap
the painter had put on to keep out the dist and overspray.
Just a thought for other places to look for your problem.
Rich Schultz
N262AE
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ken carpenter
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: Europa-List: surging engine on take-off
Yesterday taking off, the engine surged as the turbo kicked in it went up to
5700
RPM then dropped back into the 4800 range. I tried several runs but aborted
the take-off as it continues to surge. Checked the prop governor and it checked
out as functioning correctly.; Took the cowl off and the turbo arm seems
to cycle correctly when the master turned on and the throttle cycled. Tied the
plane down and ran it up to 5700 rpm. It did not surge at all.
Any idea? I have not tried to fly it again yet.
Ken Carpenter
N 9XS 914 Mono at 430 hours TT
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<DIV>I have check and checked and found nothing. I have flown it five more
times and it is doing perfect. Everyone has good ideas and at annual in
two months sometingt may shop up but for now it remains a puzzle.</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks, </DIV>
<DIV>Ken</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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the ocean because the tape the painted had put over the static ports had not
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owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> europa-list@matronics.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Europa-List: surging engine
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
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year. My problem was surging while in the air and the engine seemed to always
work on the ground. My problem was a plugged static pressure sender going to
the TCU control circuit. Problems like this can be caused by the airbox or
static
pressure sensors or a leak in anyone of those little black hoses. I pulled
each off house during troubleshooting my problem and used a small syringe to
pressure them up in some soapy water to look for pin hole leaks. My problem
ended
when I pulled the static pressure sensor and found the end block with a rubber
cap the painter had put on to keep out the dist and
overspray.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Yesterday taking off, the engine surged as the turbo kicked in it
went up to 5700 RPM then dropped back into the 4800 range. I tried several
runs but aborted the take-off as it continues to surge. Checked the
prop governor and it checked out as functioning correctly.; Took the cowl
off and the turbo arm seems to cycle correctly when the master turned on and
the throttle cycled. Tied the plane down and ran it up to 5700 rpm.
It did not surge at all. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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yet.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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