To get a handle on the concept of landing a monowheel, I suggest taking
a bowling ball and laying a sheet of plywood 4' X 4' on top of the
bowling ball. Then try to stand up on the plywood. The physics are
identical.
Garry Stout
Trigear
----- Original Message -----
From: karelvranken
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation?
Mike and all,
Where are the instructors to explain why the Europa is different and
difficult to land especially on hard runways with cross wind? We until
now hear only warnings. I hope there will come a discussion why it so
different even for a taildragger.
Karel Vranken, #447 Mono XS 912ULS Airmaster CS, only 37 hours on
F-PKRL, first flight by myself with 3800 hours half of wich on
taildragger.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Parkin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation?
OK Guys,
You can talk your way around this subject until you are blue in the
face !!!! I am sure the sense of achievement is enhanced beyond
measure - and it is the individual owners own choice.
But be very clear, I don't care what your experience is - but if you
test fly your own monowheel without a reasonable amount of experience on
type you are placing all your hard work at the mercy of your
overconfidence/ego. It is entirely up to the individual.
Perhaps I am underconfident these days and I have flown a few things
between Slingsby Swallow thru Chipmunk on the slow side to F15 on the
fast side, and it is very obvious to me and what has happened to
different individuals over recent years that an inexperienced europa
builder flying his own pride and joy is putting himself and his creation
at an increased risk - that's all.
Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chance. (But please do not cause
my insurance to increase.)
regards,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Niels Kock
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation?
Hello, Tom.
You are right. The ground loop was last Saturday, and my first
flight ,which I had no qualms about and which went just fine, was exacty
8 years ago.
And your last paragraph is my point exactly, because no matter how
extensively your Europa has been test flown by another person, your
first flight will still be your first flight.
But I think - if I am not remembering wrong - that Graham and
Paul Mcallister's poin was that the safest way was to have some
experienced hand at your side initially.
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation?
Hi Niels
I am sorry to hear about your ground loop. I don't understand
your regrets about doing your first flight. Evidently that was ok and
you had the loop problem on a subsequent flight. Is that correct?
If someone else had done the first flight and you flew
afterward, would you not have been just as likely to have the aircraft
get away from you?
What am I missing here?
Tom Friedland, A 079, N96V
On 6/10/07, Niels Kock <nielskock@get2net.dk> wrote:
<nielskock@get2net.dk >
Mike,
It just proves that one cannot rely on one's own experience
alone, but
should benefit from those of others, before opening one's big
mouth.
The message is that what is true for some is not for others.
regards,
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
To: < europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own
creation?
> <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> What I mean is that
> 1. All Europas having been cleared by their inspectors will,
almost per
> definition, be
> well behaving when airborne.
> 2. I seriously doubt that an eventual accompanying
flying-instructor can
> prevent a ground
> loop if the builder has initiated one. The extra weight
of the
> instructor only increases the
> inertia.
> 3. The ongoing horror stories about the proneness of the
mono to
> groundloop are, I feel, somewhat
> exaggerated, and, what is worse, they will unavoidably
add to the
> likely pre-take off apprehension
> of the builder. Which may increase his concentration,
but as likely
> will deteriorate his flying perfor-
> mance. And weeks or months of waiting for the
availability of a
> suitable test pilot serves
> only to increase the apprehension .
> 4. Finally, one should not ignore the significance of the
marvellous
> moment where you yourself take
> that blasted, expensive, beautiful toy, gestated,
perhaps, in spite of
> your wife's silent misgivings,
> aloft for the very first time. And,afterwards, having
parked and shut
> down the engine, can lean back,
> shut your eyes and enjoy one of the rare moments in
life, where you
> are truly in awe.
>
>
> Niels,
>
> Just goes to show how wrong you can be. You are not the
first and you
> will not be the last. I didn't test fly my mono, but with a
good measure
> of overconfidence in a 20 knot crosswind, it bit me also.
>
> At least you are safe and just have the embarrassment of
paying for a new
> prop.
>
> How would you now modify your previous statements --
repeated
> above.
>
> regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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