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Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane retention
From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:57:39

Far be it for me, a humble late-builder, to chime in on this very 
technical discussion thread; nonetheless, in the spirit of "open source 
communication" with its underlying premise that an optimal solution to 
the problem will arise out of the clamor, I have a few thoughts to 
share. If I seem long-winded, my apologies, but clarity is my goal, as 
I've had difficulty understanding some of the posts of others whose 
brevity obscured (at least to me) some aspects of their intent.

As I look at my "pre-glassed" tailplanes which came w/ my "accelerated" 
kit, the first thing I notice is that the pip pin recesses as supplied 
bear no resemblance to the drawings in the manual...at the skin 
surface, the recesses are round...about 1.25" diameter...and taper down 
to a .50" hemisphere in which is centered the hole for the pip pin. So 
I really have no assurance as to what extent the TP6 is properly bonded 
in or exactly what is going on...I ponder this while reading about 
variations (such as TP6 location) which others are discovering.

As I review Mod 73 and digest the insightful posts regarding the 
process of accomplishing it, I can't escape my sense that...while it's 
doable and apparently (at least to those with both the hands-on 
building skills and technical knowledge to make such an assessment) 
solves the problem...the mod seems like a bit of a band aid solution. 
If I understand it correctly, it relies upon a proper bond between a 
small crescent of a portion of TP6 to some bid cloth which transfers 
any loads to the skin of the tailplane....I question whether I want to 
rely on that bond to resist impacts from normal (and sometimes not so 
normal) rigging.

If the fundamental goal is to simply keep the TP12 pins fully engaged, 
I'm looking elsewhere from the pip pins.

I'm looking at the tailplane root close out which, on my tailplanes, 
looks like about .088" of solid FG skin. I'm referring to the flanges 
which measure a full inch in width...from edge to innermost surface of 
the inboard plywood insert with the bushes which receive the TP12 pins.

I liked Carl P.'s suggestion (as I understood it) of a hardened steel 
pin extending thru both top and bottom skins and lying inboard of the 
TP12 driveplate.  The FG flange could be suitably reinforced...perhaps 
with an embedded plate which could be threaded to receive a threaded 
rod, thus eliminating fasteners extending beyond the plane of the 
tailplane surface. I did not understand Carl's calling for the rod to 
be 9" long, as the depth of the tailplane at the root is just under 5", 
but perhaps that was a typo. The beauty of Carl's suggestion is that it 
is simple and direct...it is completely visable anytime the tailplane 
is slid away from the fuselage an inch or so...and the condition of the 
"fix" can be monitored at any time in the future.

Now that FG flange is only 1" wide, and the TP12 flanges measure 7/16", 
and the bushes sit 1/16" proud of the glassed plywood...so...after a 
(let's say) 1/4" dia. hole is drilled for a hardened steel pin to slide 
past the TP12 drive plate, there's only a 1/4" left of the flange.  It 
would be sufficient however if the flange were reinforced with an 
embedded plate which would allow the forces to be transferred to both 
the top and bottom skins.

The steel pin could be cut flush top and bottom; perhaps only the 
bottom plate would be threaded, and the top end of the pin could be 
slotted for a screwdriver so the pin could be turned in place (and 
perhaps loctite'd?). For redundancy, there could be two pins per side 
as Carl P. suggested for the faint of heart.

With such a solution, the uncertainties of the conditions of the foam, 
flox, TP5 placement, and other issues around the pip pins become 
irrelevant.

Amen...thanks for wading through this post.

In the time it's taken me to write this, I may well have been able to 
install Mod 73...and...there's always been more than one way to skin a 
cat,

Fred
A194



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