Bob, great "there I was" story.
I too am very concerned about blow molded plastic tanks for use in an
aircraft. I can't jump overboard and get in the water fast as I can in
a boat. I would prefer a properly secured, 9 G, spun molded tank used
for racing (similar to the Europa tank construction), a coated
fiberglass tank or a proper aluminum tank if were my plane. Yes it's
expensive, and as Bob states, time consuming to build and mount, but
worth it.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations.
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From: Robert C Harrison<mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: auxillary fuel tank
Hi! Michel/Karl/ Dr David Joyce and all,
At the expense of being a "kill joy" with regards to "Red Marine
auxiliary tanks" ... I believe the guys who were killed doing a 180deg
---From 300ft take off near San Francisco in a Europa were using just that
kind of tank. Don't know if there was any conclusions made as to the
accident cause or if there was any likely connection but the aircraft
pranged into rough grass on the airfield perimeter, the pictures I saw
were two body bags and nothing above about 9" high was left of the whole
plane.
I have a 9 imp gallon aluminium tank strapped behind the main tank
bulkhead which siphons using the Europa style squeeze ball into the main
tank. It fills simultaneously with the main tank filler but can be
switched off if not required to be filled. It can also be siphoned empty
when on the ground.
"Of course there are some who would say I only needed it due to the
Jabiru 3300 gas guzzler!"
I did satisfy the PFA loading requirements although the actual testing
took lots of multiple rope pulleys and a spring balance with mechanical
advantage calculations to verify the loads.
Ivor Phillips can bear witness to a pitfall where the siphon
discontinued and about 2 hours later about 30 minutes out of Vitoria
(Spain), due to a double wingover maneuver on a photo shoot whilst
leaving Majorca, we had a few moments of glorious silence! He had to do
an about turn in his seat and do some rapid hand ball squeezing to
ensure enough fuel to make destination.
The moral to the story is when flying solo with such arrangements
ensure the squeeze ball is within reach of the P1 !
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: 02 January 2008 18:36
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: auxillary fuel tank
Michel,
The tanks are high strength blow molded construction using molecular
weight (whatever that means) polyethylene, colour is
red.
Size is 25 liter, measuring 48 x 32 x 28 cm.
According to my notes it is on website
www.mercurypartsexpress.com<http://www.mercurypartsexpress.com/> . It is
made in Canada, but I bought my first one in
the UK, where it is half the price of the Canadian price. They
(Mercury Marine) have a dealer locator link. I think I paid
30 pounds including tax, in Canada it is 100 dollars. The fuel
connector is part number 22-816856T3. You also need their
fuel hose with the quickfit connections.
Karl
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From: mau11@free.fr
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: auxillary fuel tank
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:00:25 +0100
Hi Karl,
What exact heavy duty marine tank model do you speak, plastic or
metallic? How many liters? Do you have web site adress for this tank?
Thanks
Michel
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De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]De la part de Karl Heindl
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 2 janvier 2008 15:40
=C0 : europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : RE: Europa-List: auxillary fuel tank
Kevin,
I have been using a portable 25 liter heavy duty marine tank, firmly
strapped into the passenger seat (I added an eyebolt at the bottom front
wall of the seat for an extra strap), with quickfit connectors, and
easily plumbed in to the main tank inlet (aluminum elbow). An automotive
fuel pump is also plumbed into the fuel line. Of course, one or more
tanks could also go into the baggage area, so long as they are secure.
If of real interest, I can look up the details. Thomas Scherer probably
used something similar on his flight across the Pacific, also Eric
Trombley has a marine tank
I think David Joyce is preparing for his flight to Australia.
Karl
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> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:07:55 -0800
> From: kevann@gotsky.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: auxillary fuel tank
>
<kevann@gotsky.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone out there put together their own axillary fuel tank
design? I
> am looking for ideas, probably a commercially available plastic
tank
> that could be strapped into the baggage area of an XS mono. I have
the
> Singleton fuel tank outlets with vacant taps because I elected to
not
> install a sight gage, so I am considering plumbing in there, to
the Main
> side, and not siphoning as the Europa design does.Any one doing
> something like that?
>
> I would buy a Europa aux tank but the cost is just a bit crazy,
with
> the dollar so low.
> Anybody got one they want to let go?
>
> I am not yet flying, but with the 914 cruising at 16 to 18 grand
it
> would seem that 18.5 gallons is a bit limiting? It'd be nice to
keep
> going on long XC flights once you are way up there cruising along
at 200
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