Yes i did that with mine, but the joints i did all came apart by hand. Dont
know but i think that qualifies as a FAIL
I just use it for fixing bits around the house now, plenty for that
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 10:22 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I and others have mentioned this before on this site about expiration
dates on the Redux. Alot of that is due to how long they want to keep
records and liability. If you are concerned about the suitability of the
material concerning its expriation date make a test coupon. Make a lap
sample of the thickness or number of plies of fiberglass etc that you are
anticipating to bond in service and do a destructive test. If the
fibereglass breaks or tears before the bond separates you can reasonably be
assured your material is still good.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: 5/23/2008 2:01:30 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are sending
you new batches.
Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I got,
new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is quoting an
expiry of june 2010
price was much the same $1280 a case of 6
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as
Araldite 420 or Epibond 420 A/B.
I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor TAPE.
As there is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for the Europa and as
a result I am still buying it in bulk and shipping it. I have looked for
substitutes, and many epoxies are as strong, but none as ductile or willing
to be used in aircraft.
I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B (Redux)
that the manufacturer, Huntsman Products in California, has restructured
their pricing and packaging. I have been in contact with my distributor
and Huntsman over the last four months trying to resolve the issue. Gladly,
Huntsman has at least changed their policy and have agreed to distribute
Epibond 420 in 6 quart cases again. Unfortunately, Huntsman has nearly
doubled the price per case with no significant bulk discounts available for
multiple cases. I've researched importing fresh Redux from overseas and
it is slightly more costly due to the weak dollar and high
shipping/hazardous fees.
If I order soon, and I can still combine with other distributors I can
get 6 quarts for about $280 a quart plus shipping to you (typically $20).
Yes, I know that is $120 more than last year. Airbus is the primary user so
if anyone knows someone at Airbus that can steal you some and smuggle it
into the states, we are stuck with some pretty ugly prices.
Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch. Shelf
life is a year opened or unopened but usually good for at least two if
unopened.
I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far. I need three others.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Distributor
Cell 813-244-8354
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Lowe
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Everyone,
Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite 2102 (rapid
epoxy) in the US or Canada? If you have, can you forward me their contact
information.
The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have purchased has
expired. The stuff I believe is classified as hazardous material for
shipping and I'm in Canada so I'll need to find out if the vendor can ship
it here too.
OR
Is there an "approved" alternative that can be used that is readily
available in US or Canada?
Thanks,
Roger Lowe
A252
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