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There seems to be an assumption that the stall/ spin behaviour of the Europa
is somehow worse than other aircraft. I dont believe this to be true. In
fact I would say that recovery from the Europa is much better than other
aircraft I have flown.
In the circuit you turn on to finals at 65kts and the stall speed (flap
down) is less than 45kts. Stall warner will go off at about 50 kts - plenty
of warning. If you are flying the correct circuit speed (making allowance
for wind and turbulence) you wont stall. This applies to all aircraft.
I really dont understand your problem.
BTW I have flown the Europa into a turn and deliberately induced a stall -
its easily recovered.
I dont believe you can predict an aircrafts stall characteristics without
actually flying it. Thats the point of test flying.
If you have doubts about an aircrafts behaviour take it up to 3000ft with an
experienced pilot (ie: on type ) then stall it straight and level, then in a
turn. Try it both ways in case its worse in one direction than the other.
I had the same concerns as you do till my instructor made do this.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Classic stall characteristics
>
>
> Graham and all,
>
> Speeds, AOA, wash-outs and recovery technique for incipient spins are all
> clear, I consider those things essential knowledge to everyone acting as
> P1. Nonetheless thanks for reminding me and possibly others.
>
> I do not worry at all about stalling or incipient spins at safe altitudes,
> but I would not be happy flying an aircraft that has an 'strong wish' to
> enter stalls/spins while flying at lower-than-cruise speeds, flaps
> selected and possibly a slightly high AOA in a not truly coordinated turn.
> My pattern-flying tends to have small deviations in these things, after
> all I am not a highly sensitive, nanoseconds-responsive 3-axis AP :D. This
> probably to more or lesser degree applies to all of us (not implying
> sloppy flying by anyone here, so don't slap me! :wink: ).
>
> Without ever having flown such an aircraft, I guess that turning final is
> where you really have to be on high-alert with a plane like that, because
> that's when these elements are easiest aligned for entering a stall/spin
> that most likely is going to be non-recoverable.
>
> With the above in mind, I want to make sure that the characteristics are
> within MY PERSONAL limits.
>
> It goes without saying that doing stalls in different configs will be an
> important part of test-flying the plane. I was wondering if there are
> other ways you can tell if a plan has a tendency to violently drop a wing.
>
> Hence my question that actually has not been answered: is there any way
> you can tell from physically inspecting a Classic Europa that it might
> have a tendency to violently drop a wing?
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
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