Just as a matter of interest could I turn a Mono on my short, very
bumpy,
grass strip (max 20' wide with no turning area) after backtracking in a
strong wind. I sometimes have trouble with my trike using full braking
on
one wheel!
Cheers
Rick
G-RIKS 912S Trike
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Davey
Sent: 25 September 2008 15:36
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Monowheel designs... any others out there?
Karl,
You say: =93I think that almost all Europas are operating out of paved
airports.=94 I guess you=92re in the US, then? The rest of the world
does things
rather differently... hence many of your assumptions are, I=92m afraid,
incorrect.
I am just one example of someone building a monowheel to operate with
higher
performance out of a short, bumpy grass field. There are many like me!
Regards,
Jeremy
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: 25 September 2008 13:15
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Monowheel designs... any others out there?
Graham,
I think what Garry meant was that no aircraft designer in the fields of
GA
and commercial aviation would dream of recommending a monowheel setup
like
the Europa for a factory built aircraft.
You are throwing in all these other types for comparison. None compare.
The
military planes were for highly specialized tasks, flown by very
professional pilots off very large large military fields. They are all
jet
powered, hence no danger of a prop strike. The Harrier has other means
of
very precise directional control near the ground.They were all designed
many
decades ago
Gliders and motorgliders all have very benign ground handling
characteristics, and are stearable with the rudder down to very low
speeds.
On takeoff the towplane or winch provide additional directional control.
I
believe that the Europa monowheel is only really safe in the hands of a
high
time glider pilot.
And safety is really the bottom line in this argument. let the
statistics
speak for themselves.
The performance claims for the monowheel are also just so much
gobbledigook.
There are some trigears that outperform most monowheels.
The original concept of being able to land on any farm field etc. is
also
out of dreamland. Why do monowheel pilots shy away from short grass
fields ?
Because a full flap and high aoa takeoff is the last thing you want for
a
short field takeoff from a bumpy grass field.
I think that almost all Europas are operating out of paved airports.
Lastly, there are very few alternatives to the trigear. I can only think
of
the Remos, with folding wings and a clamshell trailer. But that is in a
different price range.
Karl
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> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:52:36 +0100
> From: grahamsingleton@btinternet.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel designs... any others out there?
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<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
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> Garry wrote:
> > Examples of monowheel designs have been proposed as follows:
> >
> > Schleiker K14............is a motor glider
> > Glassflugel...............is a glider
> > Schempp Hirth............is a glider
> > DG Flugzeughbau...........is a glider
> > SZD...........is a glider
> > U2..........I was unable to determine if it was a monowheel or not
> > ASW.........I was unable to determine what it was
> >
> > The only real airplane I've found is the Fournier RF 3,4,5, etc.
> >
> > Garry
> U2 is definitely a monowheel/taildragger
> Harrier is a monowheel nose dragger
> btw most gliders are very real airplanes, many of them will cruise
cross
> country faster than a C152 as long as the sun shines
> far too many "real??" airplanes have too much built in headwind.
> btw 2. the mind is like a parachute, if it ain't open
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