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Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: RR Up-Date #13 Dog & Poney Show
From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:07:50
HI all RR Attendees,

I guess the Idea of a talk and discussion of topics is on tab for  
before or after dinner on Saturday evening. Probably would be best for  
before. We can save the one on ones for a social/beer drinking time  
after dinner.
Anyway I've received an e-mail from our friend and USA Europa dealer  
Bud Yearly. As you all know he has been there with solutions for all  
of us at no charge on this forum. If they're new things coming down  
the pike... Bud knows them. If there's a problem to be solved he's had  
that covered too. I ask him if he could cover some of the wants and  
some of the new topics ahead. Also maybe some of the on going problems  
or concern's for us all.

Here is his response.


Jeff,
On topics, I am still getting a lot of emails on cooling issues.   
Probably good to address that as you suggest.  Good topic for people  
to interact on also.  I will curb my tongue and just let a discussion  
flow.

Next, there was an accident that happened during refueling, and it  
would be good to have a quick safety meeting on refueling safety and  
grounding the aircraft/jerry cans and the like.  Especially with fall  
coming and folks carrying plastic cans with wool clothes.  Talk about  
being a Vandergraff Generator.

The other thing was the main spar modifications to the glider wing.  I  
can chronicle the events that led up to a soon to be published Service  
Bulletin.  This will answer some of the questions about what is Europa  
Doing.

I will also be bringing or flying the latest Airmaster Two Blade  
Prop.  I am doing nearly side by side testing on the original AP332  
and AP420 two blade.  The AP430 is a new three blade hub which can  
accept a multitude of blades.  I can do a detailed report on that.

I have also finished the LSA initial testing and Vortex Generator  
presentation for Europa and can comment on the flight characteristics  
using VGs.

Finally, in an informal session those interested in the evolution of  
Rotax Fuel Injection I can broach what I and Jason Parker have done.

What do you think?  We have 6 topics I can talk about and do a dog and  
pony show on.  Nobody wants to sit through that many topics, so we  
need to pair it down.

Most important is the SB on the MG wing,
Next would be the Refueling safety
Finally is the long awaited New Airmaster Props.

Problems guys are having are:
Cooling is old hat to me
Solving short field and stall characteristics by use of VGs.
New Rotax Ideas in the Fuel Injection arena

Bud


I think we can agree to just take a showing of hands to Bud at the  
gathering on which ones are important to us. Plus if anyone has other  
topics as suggested bring them and I'm sure we could all use the  
knowledge.
I would rather listen than talk as I just flat out don't know much! My  
wife says I talk to much at home so I know she wouldn't want me to say  
anything... I'm good ;o)
Looks like a great gathering!


Lates Attendees:
Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in.
Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In
Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o)..
Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control tower, beer  
bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o)
John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa
Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little Dragon  
Lady.
Paul McAllister...  N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl  
mods ready.
Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in
Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud!
Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in formation. Keep  
em separate boys!
John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF
Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville.
Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome aboard  
mates!
Great to have the west coast boys.
Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4
Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight of 3 maybe 4
Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in July Kit  
Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4
And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the fun!! Let us  
know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0)
Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA
William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. Flying the  
big iron in with Fred. Welcome Bill!!


  Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010 and beyond!


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com>
> Date: September 3, 2010 12:40:55 PM CDT
> To: "JEFF ROBERTS" <jeff@rmmm.net>
> Subject: Re: Talk
>
> Sure did.
> I am up to my ears in work and I just finished thinking and talking  
> to Bob Borger and Gary Leinberger about your comments.  One of these  
> days I need to think about profit.
>
> On topics, I am still getting a lot of emails on cooling issues.   
> Probably good to address that as you suggest.  Good topic for people  
> to interact on also.  I will curb my tongue and just let a  
> discussion flow.
>
> Next, there was an accident that happened during refueling, and it  
> would be good to have a quick safety meeting on refueling safety and  
> grounding the aircraft/jerry cans and the like.  Especially with  
> fall coming and folks carrying plastic cans with wool clothes.  Talk  
> about being a Vandergraff Generator.
>
> The other thing was the main spar modifications to the glider wing.   
> I can chronicle the events that led up to a soon to be published  
> Service Bulletin.  This will answer some of the questions about what  
> is Europa Doing.
>
> I will also be bringing or flying the latest Airmaster Two Blade  
> Prop.  I am doing nearly side by side testing on the original AP332  
> and AP420 two blade.  The AP430 is a new three blade hub which can  
> accept a multitude of blades.  I can do a detailed report on that.
>
> I have also finished the LSA initial testing and Vortex Generator  
> presentation for Europa and can comment on the flight  
> characteristics using VGs.
>
> Finally, in an informal session those interested in the evolution of  
> Rotax Fuel Injection I can broach what I and Jason Parker have done.
>
> What do you think?  We have 6 topics I can talk about and do a dog  
> and pony show on.  Nobody wants to sit through that many topics, so  
> we need to pair it down.
>
> Most important is the SB on the MG wing,
> Next would be the Refueling safety
> Finally is the long awaited New Airmaster Props.
>
> Problems guys are having are:
> Cooling is old hat to me
> Solving short field and stall characteristics by use of VGs.
> New Rotax Ideas in the Fuel Injection arena
>
> Bud
>



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