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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Viking Aircraft engine
From: Ivan Midwing <midwing@telia.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:19:17
Folks,
I have been lurking on the forum now for awhile and would like to suggest to
 look at the UL-Power engine instead!
As far as I now there is one in UK I think nearing completion for the Europa
 and my personal choice as soon as I can order the kit...
I have no commercial interest in the company but to me that engine is probab
ly the best engine right now.
Blue Skies & Tailwinds!
Ivan 

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27 jan 2012 kl. 14:23 skrev Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>:

> fwiw, I've subscribed to his email group list and have been watching the b
anter with interest. I too have heard not-to-good things about the fellow. H
is on-line demeanor, and his answers to my in-person questions to him at Osh
 two years ago suggest arrogance.  
> 
> My issues with the design are 1- the prop turns the 'wrong' way. 2- he use
s a rubber coupler in an attempt to deal with harmonic resonances, and from m
y EAA chapter colleagues experiences (with other redrives) and also my resea
rch on this topic, this damper will not be able to dissipate the power at th
e resonance peak (typically at lower rpms and power settings.... just above i
dle) for any extended durations. When asked about this design he didn't real
ly answer it other than stating that the built-in fan 'blades' in the starte
r ring gear were designed to cool it.
> 
> I think the Honda block has promise tho - it's the same engine that is rac
ed in the amateur leagues, and also the same one they use in their outboard m
arine engines.
> 
> Time will tell I guess whether his installation is more sound than his pre
vious efforts with the Subarus
> 
> Cheers,
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell@etb.net.co> wro
te:

> 
> Yes I too looked at this option but as garry points out, and without knowi
ng
> Eggenfelner, I saw a lot of negative stuff on the web and also you see qui
te
> a few of his engines for sale...being changed out for something else.  Thi
s
> generates a significant degree of caution in me at least.  He might well
> have got it right this time.
> 
> I think the base Honda fit engine is a very interesting powerplant and the

> volume and quality control is unlikely to have the manufacturing problems
> that the aviation manufacturers have like dodgy cranks but I am personally

> am not up for the experimentation process required to get it flying.
> 
> There was a chap flying in Canada whose name escapes me with a Honda/CAM10
0.
> 
> Will
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Garry Stout
> Sent: 26 January, 2012 20:54
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Viking Aircraft engine
> 
> 
> This engine is being sold by Eggenfeller.........formerly selling the Suba
ru
> engine conversions.  Those Subaru engines turned out to be completely
> unreliable and downright dangerous.  I know nothing about his latest
> project, the Honda conversion, but based on his previous engines, I wouldn
't
> trust him.  Google his name and you'll get a real education.
> 
> Garry Stout
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:18 PM, William McClellan <wilwood@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Bud or anyone,
> > This seems to be a very nice engine for the Europa, a Viking Honda
> aircraft engine.  The Viking shop in in Edgewater, FL.  Do you know anythi
ng
> about this engine?  It is the Honda 1500 cc, 117 hp, 6300 rpm max, 2.33/1
> reduction drive, fuel injected, liquid cooled, 178 lb dry weight, fully
> developed package for aircraft use.  The package includes 40A Alternator,
> Dual Engine controllers,  Exhaust / Muffler, Air intake, K&N Filter,
> Starter, Radiator, Oil cooler, fuel pumps and Engine mounting for your
> airplane.   The engine is fully assembled.   $13,000   Looks like a very
> good alternative to the Rotax.  They haven't yet but likely to develop ret
ro
> fitable turbo-charge down the road.
> > Thanks,
> > Bill McClellan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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