Hi David=2C
>From what you are saying=2C you had the stick at full aft? With a tailwind
this would have lifted your tail. Had you pushed the stick full forward yo
u might have prevented the mishap.
Karl
> From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
> Subject: Europa-List: Avoiding ground loops
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sat=2C 16 Jun 2012 22:46:03 +0100
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> Have been doing a bit of thinking about how I could
> possibly have done a ground loop at my advanced age=2C and
> having inadvertently shared my loop with you while
> sleepily assuming I was replying to Tim personally=2C I
> thought I might share my conclusions with you. It seems to
> me that like meeting a large bird nose/beak on or
> ditching=2C ground looping is something you don't get
> taught=2C but something where a bit of prior nought would
> definitely be an asset! So here's my thoughts:
> Having turned 90 degrees left off the 09 runway=2C
> I was taxying at a brisk pace up the 36 runway with a
> brisk (said on landing to be 10kts=2C but on measuring
> immediately after the loop 10=2C gusting 18kts) coming from
> R rear quarter. After a momentary look at an instrument=2C I
> found myself swinging right. Full left rudder didn't stop
> the swing=2C and my reflex was to brake=2C as this generally
> of course helps turning manoeuvres in a mono. The turn
> continued and the plane went gently forwards and left with
> the ground touching the left wingtip and the prop. The
> stick was hard back all the time=2C because this is also
> ingrained in mono pilots to increase the authority of the
> tail wheel.
> With the amazing wisdom of hindsight=2C I
> strongly suspect that had I not braked the plane would not
> have gone A over T onto its prop=2C although it might have
> still touched the left wingtip. Slowing down and cutting
> the throttle also of course reduced airflow over the tail
> plane reducing the tail down forces=2C and removed the left
> turning effect of prop wash acting on the port side of the
> fin. So if I ever find myself threatened with a difficult
> to control tendency to turn sharply into wind=2C I hope I
> shall remember to accelerate rather than brake. An
> excursion on to the grass would have been a minor matter
> compared with a set of new blades + engine check. Glad to
> hear anyone else's experience or thoughts. Regards=2C David
> Joyce! G-XSDJ
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> PS Now when confronted with a large bird looking as though
> it is coming through the screen I reckon the smart move is
> to pull up=2C as birds are likely to dive in a panic
> situation as their only means of rapidly gaining speed to
> avoid a threat=2C but when it first happened I hesitated a
> bit before turning right=2C wondering whether the bird knew
> the rules of the air! Ditching thoughts in due course.
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