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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aileron setup
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:56:56
Forgive me for not answering sooner Richard.

Sun n Fun Airshow prep of three aircraft plus owner servicing left me 
running like a chicken with his head cut off.  Please feel free for a 
rapid response to go to the Europa website and email direct.

To your problem if you haven't already figured it out:

Too much down is a simple fix, however you must do as others indicated 
and pull the wing and set your wing up stops properly.  I set the up 
stop at 24 degrees using a simple protractor and by adjusting the short 
rod.  

Set your sticks to vertical and your fuselage QD belcranks to vertical.
Adjust your wing long pushrod to set that QD perpendicular to the line 
between the main spar bushes.

Once both wings are set, rig the wings as in my instruction (soon to be 
on the Europa website in tech tips).  

Note the aileron position.  If both are up or down with the stick 
vertical your fuselage QDs spacers may be too tight or loose and or are 
off center with the bolts in the wing and or just a bit off vertical.  
Simply pull the wings and adjust the fuselage belcrank about 1/8 inch 
for about 5 degrees.  Don't be surprised if you adjust it the wrong way 
first.  We've all been there and done that.  

Once the ailerons are close, check that the stops are hitting prior to 
your aileron weights contacting the wing skin.  As said many times, the 
stop on the left wing in the up position sets the down throw on the 
right wing.

Now adjust the wing lateral pushrod to get it just right.  

It's a two hour job provided the wing incidence, sweep, and the like are 
correct.

Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Wheelwright<mailto:rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:58 PM
  Subject: Europa-List: Re: Aileron setup


<rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>>

  OK
     After another full day trying to get the Ailerons set up with 
failed result. It is simply, I have too much down and not enough up on 
the both Ailerons.  The results are

  STBD
  21.4 Up
  22.1 Down
  43.5 Total Movement

  Port
  23.1 Down
  21.4 Up
  44.5 Total

  Should Be near to
  22.5 Min to 25.5 Max  UP
  19 Min 22 Max Down
  41.5 Min to 47.5 Max  Total

  Setup as by the book. QD?Ts in the Fuselage and the Wing root 
vertical Stops at 24 degrees before wings rigged and adjustments.

  On trying to correct so there  is less down throw by altering the long 
lateral pushrod in the wing in the opposite so it hits the stop, 
stopping the opposite aileron going down too far. OK now I measured the 
deflection it is now correct from its new position Not Neutral but 
slightly up. Now to bring the aileron back to neutral I have to shorten 
the aileron link rod. On doing so it puts the aileron back to exactly 
where I started from ????  Nothing gained at all just a waste of time. 

  All I have to do is to get less down and more up.  What am I missing 
???

  AirEupora I have Used Buds method a few times now and yes it works 
every time for the first setup to get everything in the neutral 
position. BUT still too much DOWN and not enough UP

  John, I?Tm getting within the correct ratio limits as you will see 
---From above. It all just wants the deflections moving up about 2 degrees. 


   Any suggestions will be very welcome  :x

  --------
  Richard Wheelwright
  G-IRPW
  90% finished with that 90% to Finish


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