How bout it folks, anybody else up for getting together in OR?
Kevin
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
> Date: August 4, 2013, 1:57:05 PM MDT
> To: Kevin Klinefelter <klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>
> terrific Kevin...would you mind sending your msg to the europa-list so oth
ers know that people have started to sign up?
>
> thanks,
>
> Fred
>
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
>
>> I can make it on Friday the 16th. Sounds like fun. I plan to camp.
>> Kevin
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have some "must-make" commitments on Aug 13 & 14th...I'm clear 15th th
ru 18th...
>>>
>>> F.
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:39 AM, Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have some time off from my job next week August 12-18. Any chance y'a
ll would want to get together next week?
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...hey c'mon...you're the guy who touted Oregon...is there no camping @
McMinnville?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Greg Fuchs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HaHa, sure. You can announce it if you would like. I'll stay in the e
ves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is Transient Parking at the McMinnville airport (KMMV), and Eve
rgreen
>>>>>> Museum is just next door, across the road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twin Oaks is a bit tricky, due to mountains on one side. I have never
flown
>>>>>> in there, except as a passenger. I thought you could only land in one
>>>>>> direction, but heard from someone that their CFI taught them to fly o
ut in
>>>>>> the opposite direction once. I just don't know. One would need to rea
d the
>>>>>> airport information carefully before landing there, I guess is the me
ssage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> McMinnville has two runways and I've never noticed any major obstruct
ions
>>>>>> while doing touch and go's there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to see Ms. Europa, Fred. =46rom your pics, it looks l
ike she
>>>>>> is pretty well on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Fred Klein [mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:28 AM
>>>>>> To: Greg Fuchs
>>>>>> Cc: 'Kevin Klinefelter'; 'h&jeuropa Heather Butcher'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great work Greg...sounds like a number of excellent possibilitiies...
shall
>>>>>> we announce this as the:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DOTH - McMinnville - 2013 ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...just to see who bites?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (If there's a crowd, I'll trailer in Ms. Europa, my project, [as yet]
>>>>>> non-flying)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =46rom your description, it's not clear whether or not one can land a
t the
>>>>>> museum...(I'm presuming it's located on an airfield)...?...but both T
win
>>>>>> Oaks and Sportsman's sound fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Greg Fuchs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, (per Fred's message),
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Optimal season for flying in this area is now (this time of year). W
e
>>>>>>> generally have at least a couple months with almost no measurable
>>>>>>> rainfall, starting after the 4th of July.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am no connoisseur, but this is a little bit about the area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Museum is the 'Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum', located in
>>>>>>> McMinnville, OR.
>>>>>>> Link:
>>>>>>> http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some personal reviews for the Museum:
>>>>>>> http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g51963-d273891-Reviews-
Ev
>>>>>>> ergree n_Aviation_Space_Museum-McMinnville_Oregon.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EAA: The biggest chapter that I know of is EAA 105, located at Twin
>>>>>>> Oaks, although there is a small one based out of McMinnville.
>>>>>>> Twin Oaks has a breakfast every First Saturday of the month, and my
>>>>>>> next-door hangar buddy goes there a lot. That is where the RV folks
>>>>>>> are based, and Dick Vansgrunsven himself is based there. All are
>>>>>>> welcome to the pancake breakfast.
>>>>>>> http://twinoaksairpark.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although a member of EAA, I am not familiar with all the general
>>>>>>> services available through the chapters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Closest airport to Evergreen is McMinnville. Oddly, I cannot find a
>>>>>>> website for it (if someone finds it, let me know), so here is an air
nav:
>>>>>>> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMMV
>>>>>>> Facilities: Not very familiar, but there is a small area for camping
,
>>>>>>> but I am told it will not handle many people. You can get a pictoria
l
>>>>>>> of it with Google Map.
>>>>>>> Hotels and restaurants: There is supposedly one hotel and a McDonald
s
>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>> 1.3 miles, but the city is about 2.5 miles away for other goodies.
>>>>>>> Pretty far for walking. Not sure about car facilities, would have to
call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the next closest is Sportsman Airpark, located in Newberg, OR
>>>>>>> (about 10 miles from museum), owned and operated by Jerry and Lessie
>>>>>>> Dale and their sons Jason and Griffin. Once upon a time, they were a
>>>>>>> Piper dealership. I am based here. Access to major facilities in tow
n
>>>>>>> is about 0.5 miles. As many hotels, restaurants and bars one would
>>>>>>> want, I would think...including many bar/grill combo's such as
>>>>>>> Cooperstown. There is a hardware store as well, if the need arises. I
t
>>>>>> seems that I am there almost every day.
>>>>>>> I talked to the FBO yesterday, and confirmed they allow camping for
>>>>>> fly-ins.
>>>>>>> Avgas and JetA is available. Overnight fee is $5. For transportation
,
>>>>>>> there is a Mercedes station wagon available for close-area day use,
>>>>>>> free use except for cost of gas replacement only. They are a launch
>>>>>>> site for Vista Balloons at the South end of the Airport. The burners
>>>>>>> make some noise, but they are generally up and out of sound range wi
thin
>>>>>> about a half an hour.
>>>>>>> Usually four or five balloons launch once a day, right at sun-up. It
>>>>>>> really is quite a sight.
>>>>>>> http://www.sportsmanairpark.com/
>>>>>>> Nearby fun:
>>>>>>> Champed State Park with biking and year-round camping
>>>>>>> http://www.champoeg.org/ Also, this area is very famous for its Grap
e
>>>>>>> yards and wine-tasting, for those that want to try that out.
>>>>>>> There is an old-style drive-in movie theatre in Newberg as well...an
d
>>>>>>> well within walking distance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that is a quick reconnoitering of the area, anyway. I don't
>>>>>>> think that answers all questions, so let me know if there are any mo
re.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Fred Klein [mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:24 AM
>>>>>>> To: Greg Fuchs
>>>>>>> Cc: Kevin Klinefelter; h&jeuropa Heather Butcher
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So Greg...can you do a quick reconnoitering of the area and advise r
e:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - cooperation, support, and enthusiasm of local EAA chapter?...and t
he
>>>>>>> museum staff?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - availability of on-site camping and nearby accommodations?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - optimal season weather-wise?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> F.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Greg Fuchs wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --> <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fantastic idea. I believe they have an SR-71 to gawk at too, among
>>>>>>>> other things.
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey! That sounds good Fred.
>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --> <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We could meet under one of the wings of the Spruce Goose at McMinn
ville!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thumbs up!
>>>>>>>>>> Greg - OREGON
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should gather out west sometime! Would anyone be
>>>>>> interested?
>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin in CA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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