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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Sub Panels....thanks
From: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:24:58

Alan

The exclusion to training for initial issue etc applies to jointly owned 
aircraft
as detailed in para 4 and all it's sub paragraphs.

The earlier paragraphs (ie para 3) refer to solely owned aircraft, which does 
allow
such training for the owner, close friends and family who do not pay for
the aircraft hire.

David Watts

> On 14 Oct 2013, at 17:35, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, Found it.
> 1.1 It is often thought that flying training is not permitted in private 
> aircraft,
or at least that only a limited amount of training is allowed. In
> fact, there is no restriction on training in private aircraft, but as with any
activity in an aircraft that is normally only used for private recreational
> purposes there are restrictions on what can be paid1 for in relation to the 
> flight.
> 1.2 The basic position is that if someone pays for something in relation to a
flight, the flight is no longer private, but either aerial work,
> public transport or commercial air transport. Aircraft that operate under a 
> Certificate
of Airworthiness (CofA) and are only maintained to a
> standard appropriate for private use or aircraft that operate under a Permit
to Fly (hereafter jointly referred to as 'private aircraft') can only
> be used for private flights.
> 
> Then it goes on further down  to this.
> 
> Note: Training for the initial issue of an NPPL, PPL, CPL, IMC Rating, 
> Instrument
Rating or other 'ab initio' training is not permitted. The
> intention is to allow individuals to pay for training that enables them to 
> regain
currency, renew a licence, learn a new skill (such as
> short field landings) or become familiar with a new type etc.
> 
> I never understand the wording of these things, But to me it looks like you 
> can't,,
I think I will go along with that, unless someone tells me different..
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410513#410513
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