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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Intercom Do you need one
From: danny shepherd <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 14:46:56

Hi Roland,
                   I have been flying now five years with the funkwerk 
ATR833, and have no problems what so ever. I find it very easy to use 
and very intuative.
When I bought mine it was a "Filser" :-) .

Cheers Danny. G-c.e.r.i


On 06/11/2013 06:19, Rowland Carson wrote:
>
> On 6 Nov 2013, at 13:24, Remi Guerner wrote:
>
>> Now I am thinking at the possible architecture of my future 8.33 
>> installation.
It is very tempting to withdraw the intercom, therefore saving panel space
and making the wiring simpler, but I see one big drawback: controlling the 
intercom
function would be a lot more complicated
>> BTW switching from the 25 to the 8.33 kHz modes with those new Garmin radios
is also a configuration task
> Remi - my comments, for what they are worth!
>
> I have just decided, based on recent comments in this forum, to delete the 
> intercom
---From my panel (which is not yet built, but exists as many drawing and wiring
diagrams, plus loose parts). I was originally planning to install a 25kHz
mode radio as I'd picked up one at a good price. However, the length of time
it's taken me to build the aircraft means that I'll probably need a 8.3kHz radio
shortly after it's finished, so I decided to get one anyway and sell the other
one.
>
> So, I've got a Funkwerk ATR833 now.
>
> I made comparisons of the intercom capabilities between the PS Engineering PM
1000 II (also a second-hand bargain) and the internal one in the ATR833 and 
found
there was little to choose. The radio squelch is not directly accessible
but is quite easy - pressing one button changes the volume knob to act as 
squelch,
and it flips back to volume control after 10s inactivity. Intercom VOX setting
is reached by pressing the same button 3 times, but my experience with many
hired aircraft is that I very seldom need to adjust either the radio squelch
or the intercom VOX, once set up. There is a single VOX control for both P1
& P2, but separate mic gain settings are available which could be useful if 
headsets
do not match.
>
> I looked at the ergonomics of several 8.33kHz radios and found that the ATR833
was the only one in my price bracket that automatically chooses between 25kHz
& 8.33kHz, depending on the numbers entered. You can also force it to 25kHz
only for slightly faster frequency entry (saves 1 digit), but the automatic mode
seems most user-friendly and avoids in-flight reconfig.
>
> Of course, I have not yet flown with my proposed setup so its success remains
to be seen, but you may be interested in what led to my decisions.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
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