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Subject: AW: Europa-List: Re: Intercom Do you need one
From: A. Buess - Aviatik <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 20:32:03
Alan,

Your warning is correct. But there is one exception: In France the Icom
IC-A6FR II and IC-A24FR II  (slightly modified versions of the original 
Icom
units) are approved for use in LSA and amateur built aircraft 
(agr=E9ment
N=B0AGR 12-041 DGAC). These units have therefore a JAA-FORM-ONE. I am 
not sure
if this has any significance for the UK, but maybe the JAA-FORM-ONE is 
also
valid in the UK.

Alfred

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Alfred Buess 

CH-3700 Spiez, Switzerland

Europa XS HB-YKI, Ercoupe 415-E N94804


Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Alan 
Burrill
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 18:55
An: Europa Forum Forum
Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Re: Intercom Do you need one


For those in the UK beware. Icom currently have this statement on their
specification for the IC-A6


NOTICE FOR USE for IC-A6E and IC-A24E VHF

AIRBAND TRANSCEIVERS

These versions of the IC-A6E and IC-A24E comply with

requirements of the European Radio and Telecommunication

Terminal Directive 1999/5/EC and are RTTE and CE approved.

At present, full approval for air use is not attainable for these

products or any other product at this level in the market place.

Therefore, the IC-A6E and IC-A24E are both intended for use in

Europe for ground use only*. Under the Wireless and Telegraphy

Act of 2006 these radios can be used for emergency

communication and navigation (VOR) should your life be at risk.

*Unless an aviation body in an EU member state gives

dispensation for it to be used in the air.


My understanding from sources is there is currently no handheld 8.33kHz
capable radio in the UK with an approval for use in an aircraft and boo
dispensation has been given.


Sad state of affair but there we have it if some one can prove it wrong 
then
please do!


I have the ATR833 in use and can confirm it is a nice radio and the 
controls
for the Intercom easy to get at with simple three pushes of the select
button and then twiddle the knob to change the i/c volume. I find once 
set
on  the ground it does not need changing in the air but have found it 
easy
to do anyway.


Alan

#0303

On 6 Nov 2013, at 16:54, John Heykoop <john.heykoop@gmail.com> wrote:


David

I do envy you youngsters. I did not finish building my plane until I was 
79
and have now had three great years flying it. The odds of passing my 
class 2
medical must be worsening all the time, but on the other hand I don't 
feel
any different and might stay fit and well until my nineties. So to hell 
with
the expense, next year I will definitely invest in a 8.25Khz radio.

There are quite a number of Europa pilots who are getting on a bit, and 
my
advice to them would be not to give up prematurely. I reckon the 
physical
and mental effort of flying and maintaining a Europa and the sheer 
enjoyment
it provides are things that help to keep one young. Of course, if you 
start
to develop a medical problem, or if you notice your flying starts to
deteriorate, then it would be foolish to continue. But until then, 
enjoy!

Regards

John
XS Mono G-JHKP

On 6 Nov 2013, at 14:03, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> 
wrote:


There is also the question for us oldies of pilot  'Sell by Dates'. I 
ask
myself whether I shall still be flying in 2017! My heart says Yes, Of
course,  but the head might come up with a different answer!
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