Hi Bob,
What is the Mk II model no please? Do you know how it is different, other th
an shape which is a real bitch.
Tony R.
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> On 11 Jun 2014, at 2:09 am, "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> Peter.....it is more than you would want for much more than 10 minutes. Pl
ease note I have not been talking about a runaway situation. Just a rogue re
lay deck not reversing until reaching the end of the travel. That has now b
een rectified by fitting the MARK II relay from Ford Allan /Menzimer organis
ation.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison.
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Zutrauen
> Sent: 10 June 2014 14:30
> To: europa-list
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
>
> approx how many pounds of push/pull stick force is it at cruise with a run
away trim (with a stock length stick)?
>
> cheers & thx,
> Pete
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrot
e:
> Hi! William
> ................Just don=99t shorten the control stick ......use the
bent one and fix it by rotating it to best position.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison.
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell
> Sent: 10 June 2014 13:20
>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
>
> whassat....Bob I dont remember that issue can you enlighten on the trim is
sue please
> Will
>
> William Daniell
> LONGPORT
> +57 310 295 0744
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Lance Sandford <sandford@melbpc.org.au> w
rote:
>
> Bob
>
> Thanks Bob. That is about what I suspected.
>
> Regards
>
> Lance Sandford
>
>
> On 10/06/14 18:09, Bob Harrison wrote:
>
> Answer:- NO SHORTER WHATEVER. TO LAND FULLY NOSE UP TRIM IT WOULD BE Extr
emely difficult on your own ! but power assisted by the passenger probably !
But the extreme loads are a question over the mechanical strengths of the l
inkages ! When I had to go to fully trimmed up to get the damn relay deck t
o reverse it was easier to let it go fully nose up trim and pray the deck wo
uld let itself reverse when it got to the end of travel. Been there done tha
t when Menzimer was insisting my problem was wiring when in actual fact they
eventually discovered that the end of the travel by the relay masked the ac
tual problem in the relay . Since I fitted the MARK II relay deck never a pr
oblem !!!!!
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lance Sandford
> Sent: 10 June 2014 01:13
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
>
> --> <sandford@melbpc.org.au>
>
> Question for those who have test flown their Europa.
>
> How far can you shorten the control stick and still comfortably land the a
ircraft with the stabilizer stuck at full travel in either direction , witho
ut being Superman?
>
> Lance Sandford
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