Hi All
I used a mountain bike brake leaver with integral master cylinder. I mounted it
on the control column so that the lever was to hand without removing your hand
---From the stick. A great success, the volumns of the master cylinder matched
the Europa brake slave. Only think is to top up you have to take the device from
the control column by undoing the handle bar bracket and bending it over to
access the reservoir with gravity directly underneath it. I top up annually at
Permit time but it never needs much. Too much going on in a mono on touch down
to operate two levers with one hand in my book.
Cheers
Justin
Justin Kennedy
Chairman of the East of Scotland Strut
Owner G-ZTED Mono Europa Classic, Rotax 912S with Airmaster CP Prop.
Justin Kennedy
0131 313 0707
justin@systemwise.co.uk
SystemWise Ltd
105-107 Saughtonhall Drive
Edinburgh, EH12 5TS
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1. 03:05 AM - Re: EBAY NOS - Kart Components - Mono Brake Master Cylinder
(Area-51)
2. 06:26 AM - Re: Mono Master Cylinder Replacement (Erich Trombley)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh 2024 (Jerry Rehn)
4. 12:43 PM - Re: Europa support (.)
5. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: Mono Master Cylinder Replacement (D McFadyean)
6. 03:26 PM - Europa support (Brian Phillips)
________________________________ Message 1
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Subject: Europa-List: Re: EBAY NOS - Kart Components - Mono Brake Master
Cylinder
From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
Kart Components has just messaged me.
There are about 25 units left in stock; there will be no further production
runs.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513698#513698
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From: Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mono Master Cylinder Replacement
Thanks. Yes, the setup is remarkably simple. The only way to access the
reservoir
is to remove the mounting screws and lower the assembly. Fortunately, this
should only be required for a complete fluid change. During normal use the
rubber telescoping diaphragm on the top of the reservoir allows for the transfer
of brake fluid from the master to the slave cylinder to accommodate brake
pad wear. When its time to replace the pads, simply compress the puck back into
the slave cylinder forcing the fluid back up into the master cylinder reservoir.
Also, during the brake bleeding process, I found it much easier to remove the
entire
system (master, parking brake, slave, and brake line) as an assembly from
the airplane. Fortunately, there is sufficient room to fish the slave cylinder
through the landing gear mounting frame to allow removal of the assembly.
________________________________ Message 3
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From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Oshkosh 2024
I have had the same unfortunate experience with Europa.
In late January I placed my order for trigear kit and was assured that 90 days
would be a reasonable time for them to get everything together. They insisted
on full payment upfront as it was a special order, as time slipped apologies and
then excuses and now no response to inquiries!
Its now approaching 6 months and many inquiries are unanswered.
Very disappointing.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 15, 2024, at 4:11AM, SPURPURA <SPURPURA@aol.com> wrote:
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> Unfortunately I cant make it but a good topic would be, Is the Europa
> company
still viable. They are asking for payment in full with a promised delivery date.
Enquires on overdue our orders were apologies for delays at first, then
production
delays and now are not being answered at all.
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> N951EU - Tri-gear & 912ULS, N77EU- Mono & 914 I'D RATHER HAVE
> A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTAMY.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513690#513690
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa support
From: "." <trevord@orcon.net.nz>
Hello all,
My own experience was with ordering a speed kit 10 November 2021 which was ready
on 18th December 2021 and shipped shortly afterwards.
This was just before Karen Pool left the company after working there for 17
years.
Swift seem to make their money doing other things and the Europa aircraft is
very
much a side-line these days operated by staff part-time only on some days of
the week.
I am wondering if these is the appetite for any younger members of the Europa
Club
to "take it off their hands" and operate a spares and replacement parts
operation
at least ?
It may be of interest to swift themselves as this lack of focus has not gone
unnoticed
?
Just a thought
Regards
Trevor
New Zealand
On 18/07/24, 2:25 AM, "Jerry Rehn" <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on
behalf
of rehn@rockisland.com> wrote:
I have had the same unfortunate experience with Europa.
In late January I placed my order for trigear kit and was assured that 90
days
would be a reasonable time for them to get everything together. They insisted
on full payment upfront as it was a special order, as time slipped apologies
and then excuses and now no response to inquiries!
Its now approaching 6 months and many inquiries are unanswered.
Very disappointing.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 15, 2024, at 4:11AM, SPURPURA <SPURPURA@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately I cant make it but a good topic would be, Is the Europa
company
still viable. They are asking for payment in full with a promised delivery
date. Enquires on overdue our orders were apologies for delays at first, then
production delays and now are not being answered at all.
>
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> N951EU - Tri-gear & 912ULS, N77EU- Mono & 914
> I'D RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTAMY.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513690#513690
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________________________________ Message 5
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From: D McFadyean <ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mono Master Cylinder Replacement
I did something very similar using a trials bike rear master cylinder, but with
a remote and accessible reservoir mounted in the top rear corner of the
passenger
footwell (but could have been put anywhere).
Duncan McF.
> On 17/07/2024 14:24 BST Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote:
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>
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> Thanks. Yes, the setup is remarkably simple. The only way to access the
> reservoir
is to remove the mounting screws and lower the assembly. Fortunately,
this should only be required for a complete fluid change. During normal use the
rubber telescoping diaphragm on the top of the reservoir allows for the transfer
of brake fluid from the master to the slave cylinder to accommodate brake
pad wear. When its time to replace the pads, simply compress the puck back
into the slave cylinder forcing the fluid back up into the master cylinder
reservoir.
>
> Also, during the brake bleeding process, I found it much easier to remove the
entire system (master, parking brake, slave, and brake line) as an assembly from
the airplane. Fortunately, there is sufficient room to fish the slave cylinder
through the landing gear mounting frame to allow removal of the assembly.
>
________________________________ Message 6
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From: Brian Phillips <barp99@gmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Europa support
From my ordering experience with Rebecca at Europa, I had ordered
brakes, cockpit widening and autopilot bits back in Aug 2020, admittedly
during covid, parts finally arrived in Aug 2022. Two years. Ordered an
engine mount with Tom Hesp earlier this year, took about a month to
dispatch, very happy with this. Other small orders took between 2 & 4
months. Europa's spare parts sideline is certainly not their main focus.
All I was able to do was follow up consistently with Europa every 2
weeks to inquire on the order progress.
Cheers
Brian Phillips
Australia
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