Re: Europa-List: RE: Tail plane questions

[James <james@kingdom.ie>]

I could feel your anxiety Alex 😱

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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Alex Kaarsberg <alex@kaarsberg.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2024 8:42:13 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com <europa-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Tail plane questions

 

James,

You have no idea how that relieves me, I had just sold the kit when the new owner told me they seemed to have shut down. 

Having had my mind on other things for years, I have not followed up on informing myself, much appreciated!!

Alex Kaarsberg

On 14 Nov 2024, at 16:16, James <james@kingdom.ie> wrote:



Alex,

Have you seen this message which is posted on the Europa Club website News page?

 

Regards

James

Co. Kerry

Ireland

 

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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Alex Kaarsberg
Sent: 14 November 2024 17:59
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Tail plane questions

 

--> Europa-List message posted by: Alex Kaarsberg <alex@kaarsberg.org>

 

Thanks Eric for a detailed and comprehensive reply!

I have passed on the kit to a friend, who intends to complete it and I am trying to get him started.

This kit was delivered in 2002 and has the cables as standard, so I believe it is pré-mod 70 and so the arm will need replacing.

I do believe the slight misalignment will not result in any noticeable effect, but that will be up to the new owner to decide- your recommendation is noted and I do agree with you.

I am not sure if I understand what you mean by saying realigning the bush will have a detrimental effect on, as it seems the bush will only move a tiny amount and into the correct position..?

As the factory is no longer responding to requests, we will have to try to make up parts for the required mods, (57, 70, 72, 73 and 74) so any info such as photos, dimensions and material specs and other info not available in the modification instructions, or help in obtaining the parts, would be immensely appreciated.

 

Alex Kaarsberg

 

> On 14 Nov 2024, at 12:31, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote:

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> --> Europa-List message posted by: Erich Trombley

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> Hello Alex,

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> My tailplane is the same.  This is typical and does not affect the flying quality or characteristics of the plane.  If I recall correctly the lower fuselage has a slight twist in it.  I would suggest leaving as is. 

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> If you attempt to relocate the bushings in an effort to level the torque tube you will change the alignment of the tailplane with the mating profile molded into the sides of the fuselage.   This mismatch between the fuselage and tailplane will be very noticeable.  Hence, the recommendation to leave as is.

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> Regarding the modification to tailplane mass balance arm.  Again, if I recall correctly the TP18C Adjuster Body was adjusted to the extreme end of TP18B End Fitting.  This created a large bending moment at root end of TP18C resulting in its failure.  Europa issued mod 70 with a redesigned mass balance arm and constraint of the TP19 Weights. 

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> The failure was attributed to a number of landing mishaps.  Regardless, the original design did not adequately keep the weights from swinging side to side as there was no means to tighten or adjust the lateral restraining cables. Additionally, it was deemed that heavier tube and a stronger adjusting mechanism were warranted.

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> Lastly, I noted that you have kit number 529.   Most likely your kit has the redesigned TP18 arm.  Per the documentation in Mod 70, kits up to number 194 were affected (those delivered prior to February 2005).   So, maybe this isn’t an issue for you.

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> Regards,

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> Erich Trombley

> N28ET

> Classic Mono 914

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