Ever since reading about logging the aerobatic manuvers that are flown
during the 40 hours and then being limited to them I have wondered if this
is the absolute limit of what can be done.
What if a person is only capable of doing loops at the time he flies off the
40 hours. Or, what if a person does all kinds of aerobatics during the fly
off and then invents a new manuver later on. A lot of air show pilots are
doing manuvers that were not invented when their airplanes were certified.
It seems to me there must be a way to add allowable manuvers legally. Any
thoughts?
John, A230
----- Original Message -----
From: "Augustene Brown" <augustene@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Question of the year
> Fred.
>
> The FAA does not grant approval nor deny approval for aerobatics in the
> airplane that you have built. When you complete the airplane and its ready
for
> your first flight, the builder has to either have a DAR, or an FAA
> representative inspect your aircraft. He will also want to look at the
> builders construction log and also the construction manual to see if you
have
> followed the kit manufactures basic construction. Once he has satisfied to
> himself that the airplane is airworthy he will then issue an AIRWORTHNESS
> CERTIFICATE and also The OPERATING LIMITATIONS FOR THAT ONE AIRPLANE. He
will
> then have you make a statement in the log book that you have inspected
the
> aircraft and it is safe for flight. At this point you are thru with the
FAA.
>
> When you complete your 40 hr.. test period. you then have to make another
> entry in the log book attesting to the fact you have flown off the
> restriction's and the aircraft is safe for flight. You do not have to make
any
> further contact with the FAA.
>
> If you want to do aerobatics in your airplane and stay legal, then
during
> the 40 hr.. test period you must do each maneuver that you will later fly
> after the test period, once again you must make logbook entry's
attesting
> that the maneuvers were performed, and that the airplane is safe to fly
these
> maneuvers. You, the builder is the one who will certify that the airplane
is
> aerobatic.
>
> This is the way the FAA safety inspector in Orlando handled my case.
>
> Regards
>
> Jim Brown
>
>
> Fred Fillinger wrote:
>
> > Important details also, and I think this is an area that requires
> > detailed discussion with FAA first. Even the FAA should know that a
> > Pitts is an aerobatic airplane, but where a kitplane has a POH that
> > cites utility category max G's, there might be a problem? Mere lack
> > of inverted systems would seem to deny approval, as safe operation
> > depends upon the pilot's ability to maintain positive G's throughout
> > common maneuvers. Has there been such approval for "non-acro"
> > kitplanes out there?
> >
> > A "general rule" may apply. One of our EAA'ers restored a New
> > Standard D-31, the only one of its kind in existence, and tells the
> > story of response to an inquiry to FAA. "I don't give a #%*!@ what
> > you heard. This is my office, and that's the way things are!"
> >
> > Regards,
> > Fred F.
> >
> > Augustene Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to go a little further as it relates to the FAA rules
about
> > > aerobatic aircraft.
> > >
> > > Once you are in the 40 hour flight test period, if you DO NOT perform
any
> > > aerobatics, in the test period then the a/c is NOT CERTIFIED FOR
> > > AEROBATICS, AS PER THE OPERATING LIMITATIONS FOR THE AIRPLANE.
> > >
> > > If during the 40 hour test period you perform aerobatics, you must
list
> > > each maneuver performed, in the aircraft log book. After the test
period
> > > of 40 hours the aircraft is then CERTIFIED to perform the Aerobatic
> > > Maneuvers that are listed in the log book as per the operating
> > > limitations for that aircraft.
>
>
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