Ramp has in English more than one signification. In Dutch it means disaster.
Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL
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From: <irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Europa-List: Open Response to Dave (Buzz)
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> First, I did not say the largest market, I said one of the largest markets
>
> Second with all due respect for your position as President of the Europa
> club,
> telling you the good news alone is not nearly the same as telling Europa
> Owners.
> Rather more like a third to a fifth of the thousand kits sold. I know for
> a fact
> that Andy, at least, is not nearly so web- clueless as the sad case of the
> Europa
> employees who sent that sad missive to the Club begging publicity, and
> completely ignorant of the list, the web site and everyone else.
>
> Third, I think it is completely reasonable and proud to be UK centric.
> You guys have a fine product and are deservidly proud. It is just a
> lousy business plan.
>
> Fourth, the US builders have in proportion been hurt more by
> the old company than UK builder where the parts pipeline persisted
> longer and no one was held up by imaginary container shipments.
>
> Therefore, even a casual neglect of the folks on this side is taken as an
> affront, intended or not.
> Knowing Andy and Nev from many hours at Oshkosk and SnF I have the highest
> respect
> and appreciation for them even though I never called them for assistence
> (OK, calling to complain
> about mismolded parts is another issue). I only wish success for them. (
> Even if Nev still
> owes Russ amd me the plans for the balsa model)
>
> I have had a number of US owners write me privately to tell me how they
> have been
> screwed by Keith and Europa. While I am done, except for glider wings,
> and I have tried the
> whole time to help Europa, even to the extent of working in the tent
> trying to sell kits, none
> of us feel warm and fuzzy about being relegated to second class Europa
> citizens.
>
> Why is the company web site always obsolete?
>
> Why even now, do the company principles rely information 2nd hand
> transfer.
> They have the same free access to the web and the list as all of us. What
> are they afraid of?
>
> Flame off
>
> No quotes of old news needed
>
>
> Ira
> in this case carrying the sentiments of many
>
>
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