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RE: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for

Subject: RE: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for
From: Alan Burrows <alan@kestrelinsurance.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:19:01

Jeremy

I would be VERY STRONGLY in favour of this proposal as its totally
illogical that I can only fly daytime VFR in an aircraft that is better
equipped than most "certified" aircraft I fly. Because I built it, I
look after it, and would dare to suggest I know it as well as anyone.
Given the vagaries of the British weather I accept that I will have to
fly in IMC sometimes so I "got trained". Now the only way I can maintain
my skills (and remain safe) is to own a share in a second aircraft that
I fly very infrequently! Whilst I have no statistics to back this up I
would suggest that a good number of incidents that occur to permit
aircraft involve flight into IMC conditions. Then why not allow this and
regulate it properly, with all the training and currency requirements
that involves. After all we are here to stay so why not embrace us into
the aviation community fully rather than leave us on the sidelines ( on
our terms of course).
Count me as a YES. Good Luck ! And I will be the first to buy you a few
very large drinks if you succeed as it gets very difficult sometimes
asking for "practice vectors onto the ILS" when the airport is busy! My
favourite answer when they decline is to ask for vectors to a visual
approach, that usually does the trick! :-)
Cheers

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Davey
Subject: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges
for Permit aircraft in the UK?


--> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>

(Again, apologies to the non-UK folks - another local issue I need to
consult on.)

Many in the UK Europa community know I'm passionate about wanting
'extended privileges' (Night and IMC) in Europas and other suitable
Permit aircraft. The PFA is looking into the possibility of pushing the
CAA for Night and IMC privileges for Permit aircraft in the UK. I've
taken an action to find out how interested the membership is, and this
Forum seems a good place to start!

Let's start by understanding what some of the constraints MIGHT be
(nothing is decided yet).

1)        Obviously only suitable types are going to be considered. So
no IMC
work in a Pitts S2. Stability will be a key requirement here.
2)        Aircraft will have to be suitable equipped - including the
right
instrument and lighting fits.
3)        Permits allowing extended privileges will likely cost more to
cover
the extra Engineering work.
4)        Required inspection and build standards may well be higher.

Given the above, could I please ask PFA members to advise me either on
this Forum or privately to EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com as to whether you:

1)        Would be for this proposal
2)        Would be against this proposal
3)        Would be neither for nor against this proposal

Thanks and regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it
is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail
done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with
airbrakes fittings) 1200 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914
turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons,
switches, gizmos, and alarms




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