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Re: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for

Subject: Re: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for
From: bryan allsop <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:59:13
Jeremy,

Sorry to be a slightly negative correspondent. Frankly I can see no good
reason to prevent suitably equipped Permit aircraft to fly IMC. Indeed,
those of us who fly a good deal in the UK will find it difficult to avoid
the odd experience where IMC training becomes very relevant.
To have my Europa cleared for IMC, and to have my rating renewed would make
me feel better, but there is no way I would contemplate using those
credentials to plan an IMC flight. Nor would I encourage anyone else to do
so.
The advantages of an IMC rating in the UK (only) is to have some priority
through controlled airspace, and to be competent at getting out of trouble.
This was drummed into me by my instructors during training, and at each
renewal.
I suppose that what I am saying is that training and practicing to IMC level
is a good thing. Having my Europa rated for IMC would not change my flying,
though perhaps I would be prepared to fly above cloud layers with a clear
conscience.
Rambling thoughts, I suppose. Maybe they could represent the attitude of
many who wont bother to correspond.

cheers   Bryan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: Europa-List: What's your position on Night and IMC privileges for
Permit aircraft in the UK?


>
> (Again, apologies to the non-UK folks - another local issue I need to
> consult on.)
>
> Many in the UK Europa community know I'm passionate about wanting
'extended
> privileges' (Night and IMC) in Europas and other suitable Permit aircraft.
> The PFA is looking into the possibility of pushing the CAA for Night and
IMC
> privileges for Permit aircraft in the UK. I've taken an action to find out
> how interested the membership is, and this Forum seems a good place to
> start!
>
> Let's start by understanding what some of the constraints MIGHT be
(nothing
> is decided yet).
>
> 1)        Obviously only suitable types are going to be considered. So no
IMC
> work in a Pitts S2. Stability will be a key requirement here.
> 2)        Aircraft will have to be suitable equipped - including the right
> instrument and lighting fits.
> 3)        Permits allowing extended privileges will likely cost more to
cover
> the extra Engineering work.
> 4)        Required inspection and build standards may well be higher.
>
> Given the above, could I please ask PFA members to advise me either on
this
> Forum or privately to EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com as to whether you:
>
> 1)        Would be for this proposal
> 2)        Would be against this proposal
> 3)        Would be neither for nor against this proposal
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Jeremy
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> PFA EC Member
> "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it
is
> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1200 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>




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