Michael,
I hadn't finished my reply, the system just took over.
The Katana is a much heavier aircraft, but I had no problem getting
airborne. A number of 80hp Europas are happily flying also.
I have not heard about the detonation problem before, but it may be
something to watch for in the future. Here in Canada there will be
legislation that all auto fuels must contain 10 % ethanol. Rotax themselves
recommend a maximum of only 5% for all of their 9xx engines. So I don't know
where that leaves us.
In regards to cs prop, I probably will have to go with the Airmaster,
because I need full feather capability with the glider wings, which are
sitting in my basement, not yet started.
Karl
>From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:23:40 -0500
>
>
>Karl,
>
>I appreciate your feedback.
>
>I would like to purchase the fwf package from Europa2004 direct but I was
>advised by them that I would have to source the Engine and Prop by myself
>because Rotax wants to keep it with their local distributor for warranty
>claims etc. and second it would be cheaper anyway (The Euro and the Pound
>gained more then 30% last year). They also advised me to contact Airmaster
>direct as well.
>I am actually a firm believer that we all should source as much as possible
>to bring Europa back on its feet which in return would warrant the factory
>support in the long time and therefore also secure our investment but in
>this case I do not seem to have this option or at least it does not seam
>feasible.
>You are absolutely right with the mountainous or better the lag of
>mountainous landscape in Michigan but I decided on the Europa as a touring
>machine and in terms of the 912ULS the high compression is rather a turn
>off
>for me. The high compression has a higher demand on fuel quality and even
>the highest available fuel grade here in Michigan is just marginal. The
>higher compression means detonations are more likely (OK the turbo boost
>reverses somehow this argument but you still could throttle back then).
>Also I like the Idea of more power adding more safety by gaining a safe
>altitude at a shorter time. A turn off for the 914 is the reduced TBO and a
>higher demand on maintenance. For the Prop: I don't know what would be more
>beneficial. A turbo and a fixed prop with the option to update easy to a CS
>or a 912ULS with the CS prop and no really update path on the engine side.
>
>Michael Grass
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>
>
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I tried to do the fwf package 'on the cheap' by shopping around
>elsewhere
> > for the engine. I came to the conclusion that by the time you add all
>the
> > bits and pieces you need there isn't much of a saving when compared to
>the
> > complete kit as I received it from Europa. It made for a very
> > straightforward installation, no extra parts needed, except for a few
>nuts
> > and bolts maybe. Why not upgrade to the cs prop at a later stage. Just
>make
> > sure that you have enough clearance between the propeller hub and the
> > cowling, and do the wiring and leave a hole for the control box on your
> > panel for a simple retrofit. If cost is important why the 914 ? I didn't
> > notice any mountains at all when I flew over Michigan.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > >From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
> > >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:35:57 -0500
> > >
><M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >Group,
> > >
> > >I like to order the firewall forward kit from Europa2004 as soon as
> > >possible but I need to do an informed decision. My problem is: My heart
>is
> > >on the 914 engine with an CS Prop (Airmaster, Kremen, Arplast?) but I
>am
> > >not sure how much the total package will cost nor I will (and be able)
>buy
> > >the whole package at once. Therefore If I could get some input from the
> > >group members who where there before that would be great.
> > >
> > >My question related to the Rotax engines:
> > >
> > >What (factory) order options other then the 912ULS-4 or 914UL-4 are
>needed.
> > >The Rotax websites and the Lockwood catalog are rather confusing then
> > >helpful. I believe I need the ring mount, slipper clutch, regulator /
> > >rectifier, HD starter, expansion bottle but what type, expansion tank,
> > >vacuum pump drive (not the pump itself), bolts, prop. lugs, Lord blocks
> > >etc?? Again, reading the Rotax publications I do not know what is
>included
> > >and what needs to be ordered extra and what I really need for
>completing
>my
> > >Europa. I also believe that some options are standard on the 912 but
>not
> > >the 914 but in return the 914 includes some options which are not
>included
> > >in the 912 base package.
> > >
> > >My question regarding the Europa FWF kit is:
> > >
> > >What makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change
>my
> > >mind (means I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912
> > >package and have left over's? I would hate to buy parts I do not need.
>If
> > >somebody has the packing list from both that would be great so I could
>see
> > >what I really would get from Europa.
> > >
> > >The last of the set of questions:
> > >I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop. Are there
>any
> > >Europas flying with them yet and if yes how is the performance?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >Michael Grass
> > >
> > >A266 Trigear, Detroit MI,
> > >Building halted at 0 deg F. outside at ground level and to much time to
> > >dream.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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