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Re: Europa-List: wheel landings [was: Flying a heavy Europa XS?]

Subject: Re: Europa-List: wheel landings [was: Flying a heavy Europa XS?]
From: kbcarpenter@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:38:40

I would say 2 knots for mine.  
Ken Carpenter  N9XS  914 Mono

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> 
> I do not understand your first paragraph. The total fuel that went into each

> plane was around 10 gallons. Each tri-gear had burned 2 gal more than the mono

> wheel. 
> 
> As far as the speed kit. I installed one on my mono wheel and I picked up 2 
> kts.

> I know of a couple more mono wheels with speed kits installed, and they have

> told 
> me 1 to 2 kts increase. 
> 
> What about it ??? All you mono wheel, and tri-gear drivers out there who have

> installed the speed kits, what increased speed did you get ? 
> 
> Jim Brown 
> 
> BEBERRY@aol.com wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > In 2001, or 2002, Europa had the Glider wings at Sun and Fun and had 
> > installed 
> > them on the Mono wheel. This was the first public showing of the glider 
> > wings

> > installed on the mono wheel. Keith wanted to get pictures of the Tri-gears

> > and 
> > a mono wheel in formation. So a photo shoot was put together. 
> > 
> > Jim Thursby flew a customers tri-gear, Clive flew the company tri-gear 
> > demonstrator, I flew our mono wheel, and Andy flew the company mono wheel 
> > with 
> > the long wings attached. All four planes were topped off with 
> > fuel................... 
> > 
> > .............................. 
> > 
> > Jim, 
> > 
> > An interesting comparison. I think your general assumptions are probably 
> > correct but the actual fuel usage for a Tri Gear of just over 1 gall i.e. 
> > (assuming U.S. gallons) of some 4 litres per hour is a bit enviable! 
> > 
> > Were any of the Tri Gears fitted with speed kits and do you or anyone else

> > have figures which prove - or otherwise- the claim that a speed kit will 
> > give

> > 10 knots more, or looked at another way, use less fuel?. Does the speed kit

> > go anyway towards getting the Tri Gear fuel usage anywhere down towards the

> > Mono? 
> > 
> > Patrick 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

I would say 2 knots for mine. 
Ken Carpenter N9XS 914 Mono

-------------- Original message -------------- 

 -- Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <ACROJIM@CFL.RR.COM>

 I do not understand your first paragraph. The total fuel that went into each 
 plane was around 10 gallons. Each tri-gear had burned 2 gal more than the mono

 wheel. 

 As far as the speed kit. I installed one on my mono wheel and I picked up 2 
kts.

 I know of a couple more mono wheels with speed kits installed, and they have 
 told 
 me 1 to 2 kts increase. 

 What about it ??? All you mono wheel, and tri-gear drivers out there who have

 installed the speed kits, what increased speed did you get ? 

 Jim Brown 

 BEBERRY@aol.com wrote: 

  -- Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com 

  <BR
 >  In 2001, or 2002, Europa had the Glider wings at Sun and Fun and had 
  installed 
  them on the Mono wheel. This was the first public showing of the glider wings

  installed on the mono wheel. Keith wanted to get pictures of the Tri-gears 
  and 
  a mono wheel in formation. So a photo shoot was put together. 

  Jim Thursby flew a customers tri-gear, Clive flew the company tri-gear 
  demonstrator, I flew our mono wheel, and Andy flew the company mono wheel 
  with 
  the long wings attached. All four planes were topped off with 
  fuel................... 

  .............................. 

  Jim, 

  An interesting comparison. I think your general assumptions are probably 
  correct but the actual fuel usage for a Tri Gear of just over 1 gall i.e. 

  (assuming U.S. gallons) of some 4 litres per hour is a bit enviable! 

  Were any of the Tri Gears fitted with speed kits and do you or anyone else 
  have figures which prove - or otherwise- the claim that a speed kit will give

  10 knots more, or looked at another way, use less fuel?. Does the speed kit 
  go anyway towards getting the Tri Gear fuel usage anywhere down towards the 
  Mono? 

  Patrick 


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