Tim, What a great idea, although going via Baghdad does seem a bit
provocative! I am certainly potentially very interested, although having
been born not long after that race, age and/or maturity just might have
caught up with me by then. Presumably you will factor in plenty of
rest/weatherdelay days. Having tried to fly Kemble (UK) to Stockholm last
year in one day, (turning back in the middle of the last of three legs for
weather - cloud base threatening to join sea/ground fog) I appreciate that
that sort of daily mileage would be fairly tiring, quite apart from stresses
related to weather or strange local customs!
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Weert" <tim.weert@hccnet.nl>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH of all DOTHs. From London to Melbourne.
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> Hi Europa owners,
>
> In October 2009 its 75 years ago that the famous London Melbourne race was
flown. (Departure 20 October 1934) Scott and Campbell Black won with their
red Comet G-ACSS in 71 hours of flight. KLM Captain Parlmentier with First
Officer Moll, Mechanic Prins and Radio operator Van Brugge won the Handicap
race with PH-AJU, the famous DC-2 Uiver. This was the first Intercontinental
flight with passengers!
>
> I would like to fly the route from London to Melbourne with some
experimental aircraft (Europas !!) in 2009. Even today it would be a great
challenge to make it happen. If the operational problems would be solved,
the route still follows some very instable countrys. And the weather
en-route will be challenging. I made an initial planning of 17 flying days
+/- 800 nms per day;
>
> Segment nr./Route:
> 1. England: Londen, France: Reims, Dijon, Geneve, Italia: Turijn, Genua,
Rome.
> 2. Rome, Napels, Brindisi, Griece: Kerkira, Prevesa, Araxos, Athene.
> 3. Athene, Andros, Tinos, Mikonos, Ikaria, Samos, Turkie: Bodrum,
Marmaris, Antalya, Mersin, Syria: Aleppo.
> 4. Aleppo, Abu Kemal, Irak: Ar Ramani, Bagdad, Shatra, Basra, Koewait:
Koewait Stad.
> 5. Koewait Stad, Wafra, Saudi Arabia: Ras Al Mishab, Ras Tanajib, Jubail,
Dammam, Dhahran, Bahrain: Bahrain, Qatar: Doha, United Arab Emirates: Jebel
Dhana, Al Dhafra, Abu Dhabi, Sharjah.
> 6. Sharjah, Ras Al Khaimah, Oman: Khasab, Iran: Dayrestan, Bandar Abbass,
Jask, Chah Bahar, Bir, Pakistan: Jiwani, Pasni, Karachi.
> 7. Karachi, India: Kota, Allahabad.
> 8. Allahabad, Calcutta.
> 9. Calcutta, Bangladesh: Chittagong, Myanmar (Birma): Rangoon, Thailand:
Bangkok
> 10. Thailand: Bangkok, Hua Hin, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Chumpon, Surat Thani,
Krabi, Trang, Malaysia: Alor Setar, Butterworth, Ipoh, Kuala Lumpur,
Malacca, Singapore: Singapore.
> 11. Singapore, Indonesia (Sumatra): P.Kundur, P.Mendol, Palau Basu, Jambi,
Palembang, Bandar Lampung, Java: Jakarta.
> 12. Jakarta, Indramayu, Semarang, Surabaya, Bali: Denpasar.
> 13. Denpasar, Nusa Pendila Islnd., Lombok: Mataram, Sunda: Bima, Sumba:
Waingapu, Pulau Dawu, Palau Roti, Timor: Kupang.
> 14. Kupang, Australia: Bathurst Island, Darwin.
> 15. Darwin, Katherine, Delamare, Tennant Creek.
> 16. Tennant Creek, Charleville.
> 17. Charleville, Albury, Melbourne.
>
> I made some premature calculations. I tried to follow the agent route as
much as possible. May be we have to look for a substitute for segment 4.
The total distance is 11374 nms over 23 countrys in 17 daylight periods with
VFR conditions. With a calculated cruise speed of 120 KIAS the total flight
time is approximate 95 hours. The stretches are approximate 800 nms. The
most challenging part is the shortest stretch, 451 nms above the Sea of
Timor from Kupang to Darwin.. But the miles above jungle may be very
challenging as well. I am still studying about the best time in the year, we
have to pass the ITF (Inter Tropical Front) at a geographical position and a
time in the year that it is weak enough for our limitations. Besides that an
average tailwind will help a lot. When safely in Melbourne our Europas can
be shipped back to Europe in a sea container.
>
> This is still a stupid Tim Weert-idea, but to make it possible I have only
3 preparation years ahead. And the 451 nms above the Sea of Timor is also a
very big mental challenge for me personally. In those 3 years, a team might
be formed with a couple of Europa enthusiasts who have enough experience and
share this kind of dreams.
> To reduce costs I am thinking to search for sponsoring by Airlines, Oil
companies, Container/transport companies, television companies and companies
like Red Bull who regularly sponsor spectacular events. And dont forget
Rotax, Europa and more known aircraft part suppliers. Long range fuel tanks
and additional equipment should be fitted! To make the risks acceptable the
team needs additional flight safety equipment for survival in the jungle,
desert and sea after a possible forced landing. And training with that
equipment is a must as well. May be the RAF or Dutch Air force might help.
An home- Operations to supply operational support with weather, notams,
flightplans, solve problems with overfly permits, visa problems, logistic
problems etc. will be a requirement as well.
>
> Please shoot at this idea, only after a tough brainstorm session it might
be possible or it might remain still a dream.
> This might be the DOTH of all DOTHs!
>
> Regards, Tim Weert.
> #460 PH-JAI XS TG 914 AP332
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