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Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting

Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting
From: Michael Grass <m.grass@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:41:03

Bob, Rowland,

I have the piece here in my hands as it was a part I had to cut away to make 
room for my trigear brake cylinder mod. No metal insert here. I have to 
admit, if you do not attempt to shine light through, it has the appearance 
of a metal insert.

Regards

Michael Grass


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: 2008-07-03 11:15
Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting


>
> Rowland,
>
> I can confirm that my cockpit module had an aluminum plate for the brake 
> master cylinder mount  molded into the cockpit module.  If you will go to 
> my build web site ( http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL/ ), album Year #2, 
> Q3 2004.  Go down the page to the pic "Brake master cylinder bolted in 
> place."  The view is from the bottom of the cockpit module.  You can 
> plainly see the aluminum plate bonded into the cockpit module.
>
> You should contact the factory to see if your CM is correct or defective. 
> If your CM has been bonded in place already, it may be that you just need 
> to bond the appropriate chunk of aluminum to the back side with Araldite 
> and cover with a couple plys of BID.  Or, perhaps take the appropriate 
> chunk of aluminum, use it as a template to mark the area on the inside of 
> the CM where it will reside.  Cut out the inner layer of BID and remove 
> the layer of foam.  Bond the chunk of aluminum in place with Araldite, 
> using Araldite/FLOX to fill any cracks.  If necessary, make a FLOX fillet 
> around to provide a transition to the inner skin, and lay up at least two 
> layers of BID on the back side, maybe more.  Other folks suggestions as to 
> the number of layups would be welcome.  Probably need to overlap the inner 
> skin by at least 1 inch (2.5 cm).  I might go 2 inches (5 cm).  Of course, 
> be sure to scuff sand every bonding surface, aluminum and fiberglass.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Good building and great flying,
> Bob Borger
> Cell: 817-992-1117 (U.S.A access codes)
>
> On Thursday, July 03, 2008, at 09:30AM, "Rowland Carson" 
> <rowlandcarson@googlemail.com> wrote:
>><rowlandcarson@googlemail.com>
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>>>There is a metal insert in the tunnel wall (the area you call the
>>>"plain resin area"). The mounting holes need to go in this area,
>>>parallel to the top of the tunnel as shown in the illustration
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>>John - thanks for your reply.
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>>The metal insert in my cockpit module must be a quite exotic alloy as
>>I can see through it! That's why I said it was a "plain resin" area -
>>obviously it has glass weave too.
>>
>>But now I'm wondering - is my cockpit module faulty? Can anyone else
>>confirm that the brake master cylinder mounting area contains a metal
>>insert as John found on his?
>>
>>regards
>>
>>Rowland
>>-- 
>>| Rowland Carson                  ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
>>| <rowlandcarson@googlemail.com>          http://home.clara.net/rowil/
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