Very well pointed out, John!
Let's keep these pages free from political randering. To Bob and others:
Eu is a success - for the mere fact that it has made war impossible in
Europe! As a "european" in Norway - I'm just sorry we're not a member.
(But, believe it or not - we ARE a member of Shengen, through the
E=C3=98S agreement).
This forum was not meant to be a "soape box" stand for one's political
anger - let's consentrate on Europa-business!
Hans, LN-HJD/#334
----- Original Message -----
From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Warning.
Hi Bob
Karel's problems have nothing to do with European Union regulations.
They are due entirely to the fact that, unlike nearly all the other EU
countires, the UK has not signed up to the Schengen agreement, which
eliminates passport control between participating countries. Belgian
regulations therefore require Karel to depart from an airfield with
passport control when he wants to go to the UK.
If you could concentrate your considerable political energies on
persuading the UK government to sign up to the Schengen deal then Karel
could fly from any airfield in Belgium to any airfield in the UK by just
filing a flight plan. UK based pilots would enjoy similar benefits in
that they would no longer have to land at an airfield with customs when
flying to mainland Europe.
Best regards
John Heykoop
In a message dated 04/12/2008 23:18:08 GMT Standard Time,
ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Hi! Karel.
This =9Csmacks=9D of the imposition of a
=9CTerminal Navigation Charge=9D which the Tempelhof
=9Czeigheil=9D are just demanding from me! Unless there is
something you really want to do (like demonstrate outside the European
Parliament!) or see in Belgium I guess the way round it is NOT to visit
the damn place! But if you are based there I guess you are
=9Cbetween a rock and a hard place=9D!
In the meantime wake up to the real world of undemocratic European
Union Militia State Dictatorship Population
Control like the rest of the public need to get used to! Then start
to do something about it.(NO JOKE!)
Best Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
karelvranken
Sent: 04 December 2008 22:01
To: Europa List
Subject: Europa-List: Warning.
Dear Europaphiles,
During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian
Federal Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen
Countries we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium:
Brussels, Antwerp, Li=C3=A8ge, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders
shall be fined....etc.
Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in
the office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw
the customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for,
several hours in advance with the adequate form.
I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me.
But why have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small
aircraft? Is this European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania)
or Forli (Italia) with this officialdom?
To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15=C2=A3 and Kortrijk
23 Euro) or approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I
suggested that they could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is
done for prisonners in conditional liberty. They said that is only for
light criminals! (Joke)
Best regards,
Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
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