If you look what is brewing in the United States in regard to
no-fly-list-requirements etc, it's perhaps time to get back into Model
Planes again. There is a nice 1/4/ size EUROPA XS kit available...
Christoph Both
Full size #223 not yet flying...
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hans
Siedsma
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Warning.
This is already for years. I remember a couple of years ago flying in
France that I had to make a stop at Le Touget because I could not make
the Netherlands anymore before sun set. It was 19.50 and the airport
close at 20.00. I got approval to divert and to land. Airtraffic
controler gave me 5 extra minutes so I made it. There was nobody anymore
on the airport only one the firer figther who helpo by parking and
closed the gate.
Next morning I was surprised to meet the police and I had to follow him
to his office. Together with an English pilot I was his guest and he
informd us that we got a ticket for a landing without customs
declaration.
I could prove that I came from a airport in France so I was lucky but
the English pilot got a penalty of euro 700. Direct to pay and cash.
So I can tell yuo he was not to happy.
There was no customs open that night before, there was no police and
their was no airport authorities available. No excuse, he had to pay.
Be carefull
Hans
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]Namens karelvranken
Verzonden: donderdag 4 december 2008 23:01
Aan: Europa List
Onderwerp: Europa-List: Warning.
Dear Europaphiles,
During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian
Federal Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen
Countries we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium:
Brussels, Antwerp, Li=E8ge, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders
shall be fined....etc.
Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in
the office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw
the customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for,
several hours in advance with the adequate form.
I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But
why have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft?
Is this European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or Forli
(Italia) with this officialdom?
To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15=A3 and Kortrijk 23
Euro) or approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I
suggested that they could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is
done for prisonners in conditional liberty. They said that is only for
light criminals! (Joke)
Best regards,
Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
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