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Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-Cold Cruse Temps

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-Cold Cruse Temps
From: david miller <loboloda@execulink.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:43:21

Jeff,

Not an elegant solution, but for much of the year up here I have the  
oil cooler partially blocked off with duct tape.
Normally will give me oil and coolant temps of around of around 185 F  
in cruise.

WIsh it was 30 F here, this AM was 12 F with 2 feet of snow.

I need to install cabin heat, but will not get enough hot air from  
the radiator, the front port exhaust pipe seems to offer the best  
location for a heat muff.
If anyone has done this, I would like to get details.

Dave C-FBZI
On 2-Jan-10, at 6:56 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:

>
> Gilles & All,
> Yes the manuals state the optimized temps but my question is this.  
> Keeping in mind I have no engineering or mechanical background I  
> simply would like to know if there are known minimum sustained CHT  
> temps and if so what have others done to raise them? I have not  
> flown the Europa in very cold air and now that I have a heater I  
> was wondering if there are minimums I need to watch out for. For  
> now I'm only monitoring CHT and Oil temps.
> Best Regards,
>
> Jeff R.  N128LJ Gold Rush
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Gilles Thesee wrote:
>
>> grenoble.fr>
>>
>> JEFF ROBERTS a crit :
>>>
>>> With all the starting temps being discussed can anyone spread  
>>> some light on minimums on cruising temps. Cold weather operation  
>>> in the manual covers carb icing concerns but it doesn't really  
>>> cover cruising temps. Maybe there isn't a reason to cover it.  
>>> It's about 30 F outside right now. Other then maybe covering some  
>>> of the radiator can anyone suggest other possible solutions to  
>>> keeping the water temps up? Is there a minimum CHT we should  
>>> watch out for?
>>>
>> Jeff and all,
>>
>> The Rotax manuals do state the optimum cylinder head and oil temps.
>> One way to ensure proper temperatures is to use a correct cooling  
>> air duct and cowl flap. Thus when you reduce airflow through the  
>> radiators, you also reduce cooling drag.
>> Other ways include providing  too large an air supply to the  
>> radiators and blanking them up, or using an oil or water  
>> thermostat. But your airplanes experiences excessive cooling drag  
>> all the time...
>> Some designer also combine poor cooling with excessive drag ;-)
>> The basics of radiator aerodynamics can be seen here :
>> http://contrails.free.fr/engine_aerodyn_radia_en.php
>>
>> The Europa cooling can be optimized, but this may imply some  
>> redesign of the cowling and radiator ducts.
>>
>> Happy New Year,
>> Best regards,
>> -- 
>> Gilles
>> http://contrails.free.fr
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