Bud=2C
You said it all in a nutshell. I have been lucky I guess in not having had
a serious problem with my 912s=2C and that probably applies to 95% of all 9
xx users. I am also fortunate in having access to two Rotax experts within
easy driving distance=2C should I need any help. One is a Rotax agent and t
he other is a busy flying school using Rotax powered Katanas. The Canadian
main agent in BC has also been very helpful=2C and the Rotax website with m
any videos (subscription required) explaining how to balance the carbs etc.
etc. is extremely useful.Maybe some day someone will come up with a breakt
hrough in battery technology=2C and all these inefficient combustion engine
s will end up in the garbage overnight.
Have a nice Sunday=2C
Karl
From: budyerly@msn.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
Date: Sat=2C 28 May 2011 17:41:53 -0400
Gentlemen=2C
My years are going to show=2C but we must understand and be consistent in o
ur
opinions.
I have found it necessary to be fair. I hate them all.
Rotax is expensive=2C and has two carbs=2C two ignitions so multiple
troubleshooting problems and high prices.
Jabiru has cooling and induction problems=2C must run at 2700 rpm or
about 85% power to equal a 914 at 75%=2C and can't swing a prop bigger than
64 inches=2C (not a problem for the Europa) but is less expensive but needs
a
bigger gas tank.
Lycomings are heavy=2C leaky=2C inefficient=2C in hot cliamates like Florid
a=2C
and over temp the cylinder near the valves requiring top overhauls=2C
Continentals need a drip pan at 200 hours=2C have similar problems like the
Lyc. and all one has to do is google lycoming or continental engine problem
s to
see there is no perfect engine.
Neither the Lyc or Cont make it beyond about 500 hours down here without
cylinders coming off for repair.
Car engines sound great=2C but airplanes need torque so you need a reductio
n
unit (duh=2C another Rotax type problem). You are doing engine development
rather than flying many times. The day they make a car engine that can
start up=2C idle out of the neighborhood and go full throttle for 15 minute
s
then pull a 3000 pound trailer at 80 miles an hour for 4 hours within
500 rpm of max and do that every day for 80=2C000 miles=2C I'll put it in a
n
airplane. because that is what we ask of an airplane engine.
So I prefer to be consistent=2C I hate them all equally.
Have a great weekend=2C
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Roberts
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday=2C May 27=2C 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: urgent:
912S ignition failure
Not jumping on the
band wagon but I'm having a similar problem. I discovered sometime back t
his
vibration that continued to get worse. After many attempts at balancing t
he
carbs and the sensenich carbon prop I finally changed back to the warp dr
ive 3
blade. I then had it balanced but It was perfect. I balanced the carbs ag
ain
and they we're almost perfect. Still at 2800 to 3000 static on the ground
theres this annoying vibration. Maybe more than annoying as I don't want
to
fly with it. Sitting at an idle static I decided to do a 1800 to 2000 RPM
mag
check and noticed a smooth left / A mag but a rough running right B mag.
Spent
days checking all the obvious stuff. Plugs=2C wires with a timing light a
nd
still nothing. At this point I've had two Rotax certified mechanics and w
e
still have not solved the problem. Trying to isolate the source we switch
ed
the 4 prong plugs going into the mag's and the vibration was still on the
B
side. Finally we switched the 6 prong plugs going int!
o the coils
and the vibration switched to the A or left mag on check. Called Lockwood
and
they believe it's not in the coils but what else could it be? Any thought
s
would be appreciated. I'm not only frustrated but like Remi I wish I had
a
thirsty Lycoming hanging on the front. Rotax may be light and yes I know
most swear by them but for me.... I just want to swear at it.
Anyone
working on trying the new UL power on the Europa.
Jeff R.
N128LJ Gold
Rush
On May 27=2C 2011=2C at 3:26 PM=2C Terry Seaver (terrys)
wrote:
(terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
>
> Hi
Remi=2C
>
> I am afraid I missed the earlier parts of this thread=2C
but I just wanted
> to let you know we had loose wires that would
normally be connected (the
> insulation held the broken pieces in
contact)=2C and would only break in
> the presence of vibration=2C or when
we pulled on the wire. We just ran
> the engine at idle and gently
pulled on each wire that came into the
> ignition bundle until the
engine idle stumbled.
>
> If someone already suggested this=2C
sorry for the duplication.
>
> Regards=2C
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Remi
>
Guerner
> Sent: Friday=2C May 27=2C 2011 1:11 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
Subject: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
>
>
> <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>
> Mike=2C
>
> I have been working on the problem almost full
time for the last ten
> days. I have not found any broken wire in the
ignition system. I have
> ordered a new ignition module and will test it
as soon as I get it.
> I will let you know what I find.
> Of
course I regret the good old Lycoming of my previous plane: it was
>
using a lot more fuel but was a lot more reliable and required a lot
>
less maintenance time and money.
> Cheers
> Remi
> F-PGKL
still grounded=2C courtesy of Rotax
>
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