Karl,
Education is the key, as I have found out the hard way.
Batteries are great if you like polluting third world countries and
china with heavy metals.
Plants like CO2. Our bodies need it for respiration.
Think of the children Karl.
Just kidding,
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: Karl Heindl<mailto:kheindl@msn.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
Bud,
You said it all in a nutshell. I have been lucky I guess in not having
had a serious problem with my 912s, and that probably applies to 95% of
all 9xx users. I am also fortunate in having access to two Rotax experts
within easy driving distance, should I need any help. One is a Rotax
agent and the other is a busy flying school using Rotax powered Katanas.
The Canadian main agent in BC has also been very helpful, and the Rotax
website with many videos (subscription required) explaining how to
balance the carbs etc. etc. is extremely useful.
Maybe some day someone will come up with a breakthrough in battery
technology, and all these inefficient combustion engines will end up in
the garbage overnight.
Have a nice Sunday,
Karl
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From: budyerly@msn.com
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 17:41:53 -0400
Gentlemen,
My years are going to show, but we must understand and be consistent
in our opinions.
I have found it necessary to be fair. I hate them all.
Rotax is expensive, and has two carbs, two ignitions so multiple
troubleshooting problems and high prices.
Jabiru has cooling and induction problems, must run at 2700 rpm or
about 85% power to equal a 914 at 75%, and can't swing a prop bigger
than 64 inches, (not a problem for the Europa) but is less expensive but
needs a bigger gas tank.
Lycomings are heavy, leaky, inefficient, in hot cliamates like
Florida, and over temp the cylinder near the valves requiring top
overhauls,
Continentals need a drip pan at 200 hours, have similar problems like
the Lyc. and all one has to do is google lycoming or continental engine
problems to see there is no perfect engine.
Neither the Lyc or Cont make it beyond about 500 hours down here
without cylinders coming off for repair.
Car engines sound great, but airplanes need torque so you need a
reduction unit (duh, another Rotax type problem). You are doing engine
development rather than flying many times. The day they make a car
engine that can start up, idle out of the neighborhood and go full
throttle for 15 minutes then pull a 3000 pound trailer at 80 miles an
hour for 4 hours within 500 rpm of max and do that every day for 80,000
miles, I'll put it in an airplane. because that is what we ask of an
airplane engine.
So I prefer to be consistent, I hate them all equally.
Have a great weekend,
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Roberts<mailto:jeff@rmmm.net>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
<jeff@rmmm.net<mailto:jeff@rmmm.net>>
Not jumping on the band wagon but I'm having a similar problem. I
discovered sometime back this vibration that continued to get worse.
After many attempts at balancing the carbs and the sensenich carbon prop
I finally changed back to the warp drive 3 blade. I then had it balanced
but It was perfect. I balanced the carbs again and they we're almost
perfect. Still at 2800 to 3000 static on the ground theres this annoying
vibration. Maybe more than annoying as I don't want to fly with it.
Sitting at an idle static I decided to do a 1800 to 2000 RPM mag check
and noticed a smooth left / A mag but a rough running right B mag. Spent
days checking all the obvious stuff. Plugs, wires with a timing light
and still nothing. At this point I've had two Rotax certified mechanics
and we still have not solved the problem. Trying to isolate the source
we switched the 4 prong plugs going into the mag's and the vibration was
still on the B side. Finally we switched the 6 prong plugs going int!
o the coils and the vibration switched to the A or left mag on
check. Called Lockwood and they believe it's not in the coils but what
else could it be? Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'm not only
frustrated but like Remi I wish I had a thirsty Lycoming hanging on the
front. Rotax may be light and yes I know most swear by them but for
me.... I just want to swear at it.
Anyone working on trying the new UL power on the Europa.
Jeff R.
N128LJ Gold Rush
On May 27, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Terry Seaver (terrys) wrote:
<terrys@cisco.com<mailto:terrys@cisco.com>>
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> Hi Remi,
>
> I am afraid I missed the earlier parts of this thread, but I just
wanted
> to let you know we had loose wires that would normally be
connected (the
> insulation held the broken pieces in contact), and would only
break in
> the presence of vibration, or when we pulled on the wire. We just
ran
> the engine at idle and gently pulled on each wire that came into
the
> ignition bundle until the engine idle stumbled.
>
> If someone already suggested this, sorry for the duplication.
>
> Regards,
> Terry
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> Guerner
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
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> <air.guerner@orange.fr<mailto:air.guerner@orange.fr>>
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> Mike,
>
> I have been working on the problem almost full time for the last
ten
> days. I have not found any broken wire in the ignition system. I
have
> ordered a new ignition module and will test it as soon as I get
it.
> I will let you know what I find.
> Of course I regret the good old Lycoming of my previous plane: it
was
> using a lot more fuel but was a lot more reliable and required a
lot
> less maintenance time and money.
> Cheers
> Remi
> F-PGKL still grounded, courtesy of Rotax
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