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Subject: Fw: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:17:41
I forgot the attachment, sorry!

Notice for example both accus (batteries) were 
loose and not fastened at all.

RT

-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- 
From: Raimo Toivio
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:10 PM
Cc: Raimo Toivio
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of 
father and daughter fatality

This is very sad. Our thoughts are with that
family.

***

I have something to report about the accident
plane. This is a bit scary but I have known over
11 years that it is maybe not so well built (at
least it is fast built).

My building process was around  it=B4s mid when
visited EAA Sweden fly-in in Barkarby 2002. Our
family friend Bob Harrison was there as well as
Mr. Keith Wilson with his huge cameras and extra
thick wallet but that=B4s an another story.

G-GBXS was there. It looked very nice, almost a
show finished plane (actually, there was a show).
I was very curious what=B4s there under the hatches.
To learn something I took a screwdriver and opened
all the possible hatches and covers to visit
inside. That was awful. I was a novice but
understood this is something I definetely would
and will do better. Look attachments. Very
careless. Dirty. Corrosion. A Fuel pump area was
like a spider=B4s nest. That inspection happened 1st
of June 2002. I got new standards to finish my
plane.

I underline my observations have maybe nothing to
do with XS=B4 flight safety nor that accident and
all these invisible details have maybe and
hopefully fixed years ago to equal better level
and higher standards.

Build carefull - make beauty first inside then
outside!

Raimo Toivio

# 417 OH-XRT

Finland

+ 358 - 3 - 3753 777


-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- 
From: David Joyce
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of
father and daughter fatality

<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>

The fact that the wreckage seems to be all
together would
argue against a mid air structural failure. Very
sad
indeed.  David Joyce. G-XSDJ


  "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
> <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
>
> Hello All.
> The crash occurred a couple of days ago, the 
> aircraft is,
> G-GBXS, Mono, 914, crashed killing two on board 
> about 300 to 500 m short of runway.
> Built in 1998. look like an Ex Europa 
> Demonstrator, see photo in G info.
> It is really sad, the brother was watching the 
> plane when it crashed.
>>From the photo, my guess only, it looks like a 
>>stall or spin impacted ,
> or Structural failure as the plane looks like it 
> hit the ground hard and flat.
> We will have to wait for the inspection to get 
> the answer.
> Anyway it is tragic misfortune for the family.
> Regards.
> Alan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407357#407357
>
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