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Re: Europa-List: Refilling a Europa by hand

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Refilling a Europa by hand
From: John Heykoop <john.heykoop@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:30:03

Kelvin, David
Thanks for the advice about keeping 'Mr Funnel' from falling over when refilling
a Europa XS from a jerry can. Now why didn't I figure out something like that
myself ....
John

On 5 Sep 2013, at 08:34, Kelvin Cobb <kelvin.cobb@icloud.com> wrote:

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> I am set up similar to David, I have the smallest 'Mr Funnel' and use a small
length of para cord to tie to passenger lift strut.... Very secure. At the 
hangar
I have a 'waggle side to side handled pump', but on trips just carry a plastic
Jerry and my funnel and do the filling with good old fashioned brute force....
Hmmm, as I'm not getting any younger, perhaps one of those battery pump
thingies might be worth a look :-)
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 4 Sep 2013, at 22:05, David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote:
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>> John, I have a simple funnel with the spout cut off so it is about 6 or 7cm
long and with a string attached to the brim. This attaches by a half hitch to
the door strut and the whole thing is nicely stable. A paint filter inside the
funnel completes the set up when I am using a jerry can. I don't bother with
the funnel when I am filling from an airport pump. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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>> John Heykoop <john.heykoop@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> I fitted a car battery and a standard Europa fuel pump on a 'sack barrow',
but filling the plane this way takes a lot longer than refueling by simply 
lifting
the jerry can above my shoulders. There is also the hassle of having to load
the barrow into the car every time I go flying. So I soon got fed up with
this and now do everything the hard way. The exercise probably does me good.
>>> What I haven't been able to master is how to keep a filter funnel upright 
>>> while
refueling from a jerry can (my Europa is an XS). After the damn thing had
fallen over a number of times, covering me and the plane with fuel I decided
to do without. So far without adverse consequences - I have never found a drop
of water in the fuel, and my gascolator filter is always very clean. All the
same, I am uneasy about not using a filter funnel, and would be interested to
know how other XS owners manage this.
>>> John
>>> Europa XS G-JHKP
>>> On 4 Sep 2013, at 18:39, Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Personally I use 10 litre fuel cans which I can lift to pour into a filter
funnel with a micro mesh filter. I have also seen a standard fuel pump, as in
the Europa electric pump, connect to a small rechargeable lead acid cell. All
mounted on a 'Sack Barrow' with a 25 litre can. Alan
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On 4 Sep 2013, at 15:48, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi All.
>>>>> My plan is LAA cleared for use with MOGAS.
>>>>> I fill it with a 28 litre plastic cann, lifting this weight of fuel to 
>>>>> above
my shoulders to fill the plan is hard work.
>>>>> I know Trans Air do a filler nozzle hand pump, I presume this take a lot
of time squeezing the trigger to re fill.??
>>>>> Has anyone used or details off , an electric inline pump that can be 
>>>>> plugged
into the aircrafts AUX power socket, I have not seen any on the market, so
is it make your own,??
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Alan
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