Dave
In truth this is no more restrictive than for a certified Twin Com with
full wing and prop deice! My aeroplane used to be certified for 'known
light ice' but that was rescinded way back when.
Pete
On 06/09/14 17:10, David Watts wrote:
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> Pete,
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> I realise that of course, I was just getting at the spirit of the way it will
be implemented here in that we will be pretty restricted. I am looking at
flying
IR in a Europa as a get out of jail rather than let's go flying regardless
of the sort of rubbish weather we might encounter.
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> Dave
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>> On 6 Sep 2014, at 16:17, Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info> wrote:
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>> Dave
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>> Unfortunately you can get icing when not in 'known icing conditions'. Known
ice requirements are more about prop and airframe de-icing ability than pitot
heat.
>>
>> Pete
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>>> On 06/09/14 15:54, David Watts wrote:
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>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> Pitot heat will not be part of the equation in the UK as the CAA have
>>> specified
that the new IR permission for Permit Aircraft will specifically not include
flight into known icing conditions, nor flight near thunderstorm activity.
>>>
>>> Dave Watts
>>>
>>>> On 6 Sep 2014, at 14:56, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Regarding instrument flying a Europa, can those that have contemplated it
tell me how you overcame the problem of heating a pitot tube, and where you
mounted
it? Also, I believe they are greedy for power, hugely, so does all your
fancy navigation devices go dim when you tip turn it on, so you can keep it
upright,
but you can't any longer go anywhere anymore, with any certainty? It's
all a bit problematic. Fly a Groundspeed until visual, yes, that could work, but
not for sustained IMC flying.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tony Renshaw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Sep 2014, at 1:01 pm, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Peter.
>>>>> Sorry but without going through those 869 pages again I can,t remember,
>>>>> But to comply with everything was a nightmare, ie Course, payment, Dual
>>>>> controls,
insurance, instructor, Examiner, What is states on the back of your permit
etc, about adding ratings , I gave up in the end.
>>>>> Do remember at the time only two types of GPS were approved,
>>>>> The kit you have to have is that required for the syllabus ,and I am
>>>>> pretty
sure you have to use an ADF, but that Leeds into another question, can it be
a Pseudo ADF on the GPS, as you know this will not suffer all the errors as
the real ADF, like Coastal Refraction, Wing refraction, Storms, etc, etc,
>>>>> Its a real tricky subject, as I was finding with the CAA one question lead
into another and my phone bill and time were being eaten away.
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430099#430099
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