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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bleeding Monowheel Brakes: Curious?
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 22:18:53

Ron,
It's damned adequate for normal use provided the master is level (like it is 
on the trailer).  Bleeding with Dot3/4 is interesting.  One would think the 
bubbles would just flow up hill and it would bleed itself.  Maybe by the 
turn of the century it will.

We do as the bike guys do on an initial build, pull off the master, pass it 
out through the wheel well fire wall, screw in the funnel, then push fluid 
with a syringe up from the caliper and out of the master to a cup.  Once 
filled to the top, the air is gone.  Screw in the cap and the handle should 
be dead hard.  No sponginess.  Then you are good until the brake pad wears 
down.   To adjust the level, install the funnel, leave the master in place, 
put the plane tail up to allow all the air to come out the funnel cup and 
carefully add fluid.  Suck out the excess and seal it up..

Regards,
Bud Yerly


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From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 3:48 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Bleeding Monowheel Brakes: Curious?

> <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> Hi Group
>
> I have an XS Monowheel with stock caliper and master cylinder.
>
> I purchased a bleed kit from Europa which includes a screw in funnel and 
> syringe, but haven't quite gotten to bleeding brakes (closer than further 
> though).
>
> I was reading how some bicycles with single shot master cylinders bleed 
> brakes without making a much of a mess and getting out air in a hurry.
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1) Does Europas funnel and syringe do an adequate job?
>
> 2) If the answer to question 1) is marginal, do you think bicycle bleed 
> may work better?:
> I can scan and post exact procedure if anyone is interested (please just 
> ask). Gist is as follows:
> ** Bicycles use 2 syringes, one for caliper and one for caliper.
> ** The syringes both have a clamp/valve to close hose (squeeze hose and 
> pinch it off)
> ** The caliper syringe has a hose that will allow it to make a 180 degree 
> bend. Idea is you keep hose straight with syringe at bottom of hose, close 
> clamp, pull vacuum, tap and let air rise to top of hose. Keep doing this 
> until most air bubbles gone. Then p[urge air and connect to caliper bleed.
> ** On this bike system they had you rubber-band lever fully depressed (I 
> didn't ever look close enough at Europa to see if this is valid).
> They then connect a syringe to the opening of the master cylinder.
> ** They then clamp master cylinder syringe
> ** They then make a 180 bend on caliper syringe and begin pulling a vacuum 
> and pushing, tapping things along the way until you get most of the air 
> stuck under the syringe piston (clever!)
> ** Then they release clamp on master cylinder and push caliper syringe 
> till you fill master cylinder syringe about half way
> ** Then clamp caliper syringe and begin pulling suction and pressurizing 
> and tapping master cylinder syringe until most bubbles gone
> ** Replace plug on caliper
> ** Top master cylinder and replace plug
>
> OK, what says you? Stick with Europa system of bleeding, or bicycle 
> technique may have some validity?
>
> Sincerely
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435636#435636
>
>
> 



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