Got any dimensioned drawings for the door support? Presuming that you've used
standard
gas struts.
Duncan McF.
> On 09 December 2022 at 10:05 Karel Vranken <karelvranken9@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Concerning Door Warping, I performed a solution (2004) after seeing a
> similar
arrangement from Ted Gladstone I suppose. Note also the strap solution after
reinforcement of the door sill.
> Karel Vranken.
>
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> > 1. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Anti Door Warping (SHERIDAN Roger)
> > 2. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Anti Door Warping (Pete)
> > 3. 07:35 AM - Re: N460HJ flies again (n7188u)
> > 4. 07:55 AM - Re: Anti Door Warping (n7188u)
> > 5. 01:05 PM - Re: Anti Door Warping (Area-51)
> > 6. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Anti Door Warping (Alan Burrill)
> > 7. 01:31 PM - Re: Anti Door Warping (rparigoris)
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> > From: SHERIDAN Roger <RSheridan@specialist-aviation.com
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> > From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com mailto:peterz@zutrasoft.com >
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Anti Door Warping
> >
> > Overcenter cam..no friction. :)
> >
> > > On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:38 AM, SHERIDAN Roger
> > <RSheridan@specialist-aviation.
> > com> wrote:
> > >
> > > =EF=BBThanks for that suggestion A51.
> > >
> > > My passive pin attempt had too much friction but the roller idea
is a grea
> > t one that I might try.
> > >
> > > Alan, Dirk Oyen uses a passive support strut:
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >> On 8 Dec 2022, at 06:59, Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com
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> > >> Hi Ron, thanks for your request regarding door warping... to be
straight u
> > p its not an issue i have time to sit and examine; my time is
> > constantly
tru
> > ly limited.
> > >>
> > >> The CAD testing calls for a non dynamic testing algorithm which
will not b
> > e accurate enough to be useful to anybody due to so many variables;
and that
> > is the b&w of what you are asking.
> > >>
> > >> Cardboard is your best friend (and a pencil and some basic map
> > charting
t
> > ools) ; draw your solution and proof it on paper first using a
> > pencil
and ci
> > rcles; i think thats how your passive pin system works? (See
> > attached
basic s
> > ketch)... its going to be a solution of two arcs; the swing of the
door fram
> > e and shape of the pin and its parking gate. If you can get it to
> > work
with p
> > aper stencils then it will work in situ. CAD will not provide you
> > any
better
> > result or magic solution. All CAD will provide you is the ability
to record
> > and replicate; that's the only magic CAD will ever provide anybody.
Persona
> > lly from my quick sketch i don't think it is a practical solution
> > but
more o
> > f a band aid for a greater upstream affect; i could be totally wrong
and oft
> > en am.
> > >>
> > >> The issue is not really safety related, which is my focus. It
> > does
hold s
> > ome aerodynamic qualities there, and the simple solution "is"
> > strengthen
the
> > door frame sufficiently at the time of production.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Read this topic online here:
> > >>
> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509463#509463
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/eec4e83c_aec3_460b_9585_589875a3317f_2
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> > ________________________________ Message 3
> > _____________________________________
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> >
> > Subject: Europa-List: Re: N460HJ flies again
> > From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com mailto:chmgarb@gmail.com >
> >
> >
> > Great news Will. Let us know how your new tank performs.
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509467#509467
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 4
> > _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Anti Door Warping
> > From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com mailto:chmgarb@gmail.com >
> >
> >
> > Interesting thread.
> >
> > My LongEZ has a simple scissor type with over-center locking bar to
keep the canopy
> > open. In the LEZ case the latch only moves 90 were in ours it needs
to go
> > 180 but it should not be too hard to modify.
> >
> > Simple and works well. The canopy doesn't slam down on your head as
it happens
> > on my EU once in awhile (I actually taxy with the door partially
> > closed
held open
> > with a small foam block).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509469#509469
> >
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> >
> > ________________________________ Message 5
> > _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Anti Door Warping
> > From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com
> > mailto:goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com >
> >
> >
> > The best and simplest solution ever for this type of hatch can be
> > found
on the
> > rear window of the Hillman Imp produced by Rootes Group Scotland
> > 1961-1976;
had
> > a few for 25 years and never had a failure.
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509474#509474
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 6
> > _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk mailto:alanb@dpy01.co.uk >
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Anti Door Warping
> >
> >
> > > On 8 Dec 2022, at 21:04, Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com
> > mailto:goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com >
> > wrote:
> > <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com mailto:goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > The best and simplest solution ever for this type of hatch can be
> > found on the rear window of the Hillman Imp produced by Rootes Group
> > Scotland 1961-1976; had a few for 25 years and never had a failure.
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> > ________________________________ Message 7
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> > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Anti Door Warping
> > From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@hotmail.com
> > mailto:rparigor@hotmail.com >
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> >
> > Hi Group
> > Nev's solution with passive pins and CF reinforcement works great.
I made cardboard
> > mock up and was able to get geometry spot on. Had packaging tape on
fuse
> > and used JB KWIK Weld to temporarily hold in exact position. Then
> > once
bonded
> > in perfect position and all is working great we then drilled fuse
> > for
screws.
> > If alignment is not spot on friction is high and it doesn't work.
> > It's hard to get your head around the geometry, but once you do, it
works great.
> > We did install over a decade ago and all is well. The pin and
> > striker
are made
> > out of SS.
> > My build partner Wayne was not convinced with my cardboard mock up.
He called it
> > a muck up! It took him till after completion of pins and striker
> > install
and
> > actual fooling with to be convinced.
> > Ron P.
> >
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