I'd also like to echo the appreciation for all of John's efforts.... this
group has definitely influenced my decision to purchase and build a Europa
kit.
I had never even looked into the MSN communities before, but Carl is
correct- it is possible to create a community on MSN which is only viewable
by members, and does not have to be listed in the directory.
I would think that this solution would meet the most critical eye wrt SPAM
etc., and yet provide the group with a more efficient medium.
Any thoughts from Tony et al?
Cheers,
Pete
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: The Move
Firstly John, I would like to express my thanks for the endless hours that
you spend keeping the Europa group ticking over. It is a shame that we are
having to part company with Avnet but internet wise they appear to be stuck
in a bit of a time warp and things have moved on elsewhere.
Having said that our group has functioned for the last seven or so years
with out any real hitches but I guess its time to progress.
My question would be is "why Yahoo" as there are many other internet
communities available (some less spam prone than others). I have been
involved in running a MSN community for a number of years and have never
encountered the spam problems that people talk about. It is a closed group
which is not listed and only accepts members by invitation. At the risk of
being corrected by those who know better the group is invisible to everyone
except the members. I also use several hotmail boxes and their new anti spam
filters seem to work very well (and believe me, I get a lot of spam !).
I would be happy to set up a MSN community for the Europa group if this
would help although I know that anything that Bill Gates has anything to do
with is regarded as suspect.
Anyway back to my original question "why Yahoo" although I I dont have a
reason why not. My only observation is that in the past I have found
accessing Yahoo communities a bit difficult due to internet traffic but
maybe this has changed.
Whatever happens I would hate to lose some of our leading lights (eg Tony K)
due to this change. Their input is invaluable and (sometimes) inspiring.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cliff" <john@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: The Move
> Obviously there has been a strong adverse reaction to my proposed move to
become a Yahoo group.
>
> The central issue seems to be the likelihhod of the member address list
being passed to third parties. The group itself is
> closed-to-members, nobody else can post to it and only text can be posted,
no attachments.
>
> This (Avnet) List continues and will do so until we ask Avnet to turn it
off, which we are not about to do.
>
> Does anyone know of a better alternative ? This should be free, allow
restriction to text messages (to choke off viruses) and
> preferably provide a member-accessible file storage area and a usable
administrator interface.
>
> Anyone who has not yet responded to the joining invitation from Yahoo
might like to suspend doing so for a day or two. I am the
> owner of Europa-Forum and could destroy it and (ostensibly) its address
list with it.
>
> John Cliff
>
>
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