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Subject: Re: Subaru
From: K.Pilcher <kpeng@waverider.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 01:19:33
I agree totally with Alan,
                    Give me valid reasons and stats to change my rotax 912
(the 912s came later) for any other------  please base it on facts and data
and not what you think or have been told on the grapevine, if a better eng
was available to compliment the plane do you think Europa would not recomend
it?, would it not be in their interest to do so? and how many guys have
changed from Rotax to a Jab or Sub or Limbach because it was better, nil,
zero, non, noway hozza. what is your life worth?
            fly safe
                        Kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan D Stewart" <alan.stewart@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re:  Subaru


>
> Can I just say that for me, the most important single quality an
> aero-engine can ever possess is reliability. This counts above every
> other feature.
>
> >From a practical standpoint, if you wish to have the confidence to fly
> distance, then you need to develop confidence in the powerplant.
>
> I believe that in this arena, the standard installation Rotax has proven
> its worth.
>
> Looking at aero-accidents generally, and the circumstances under which
> they occur, engine power failure seems to rate high as a cause of death
> and serious injury. A tried and tested installation is worth a great
> deal.
>
> Alan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
> Subject: Re:  Subaru
>
>
> John,
>
> I have to say its all very new to me but from my very limited
> experience.....
>
> I suspect the answer will be weight weight weight. (About 60lbs I am
> lead to
> believe) but I don't know as no one has ever answered my question about
> the
> weight of a 912S)The Subaru weight "wet with ignition, generator, oil
> container, starter, prop speed reduction, but without radiator and water
> is
> 225LBS. It does have more of a traditional aero engine feel for those
> that
> like to adjust mixture and carb heat. Although I am assured by the owner
> that he has NEVER used carb heat. My mate with the same engine assures
> me
> the same too, although I will find it difficult not to use it!
>
> Also dare I say (as a Subaru owner to be next week), hope this isn't
> contentious, but I believe there were a few problems initially with the
> Subaru especially around the area of the reduction box I believe. In
> defence
> this is the same for any new product isn't it?
>
> I understand the distributor was good at correcting the situation
> quickly
> and free of charge.
>
> A friend of mine who has the Subaru was sent a gearbox and asked to
> replace
> his due to a mod, this happened twice. He also got an oil leak and they
> offered to fix it, he declined and said he wanted a new engine and they
> honoured his request without question.
>
> I believe the original distributor has gone and I'm not sure of the
> support
> for the Subaru now, this is a question I need to find out more on.
>
> I was also told the Subaru is well loved in the US and that C150s and
> many
> other aircraft have them fitted over there.
>
> As rotax brought out the 100 hp 912S then the Subaru then looked heavy
> and I
> guess prospective buyers went for the rotax "brand" knowing it would be
> consistent and reliable.
>
>
> I have noticed you do need to be a little cautious in a sustained climb
> and
> watch the temps. Although throttling back a few hundred rpm helped to
> keep
> it under the required limits. I'm also told there is an increase in
> those
> temps now by 20% but I need to check this.
>
> If anyone can advise me of the support route for the engineer would be
> graceful. My attitude is if I have problems and am not happy I will
> change
> it for a rotax in the future if need be. (The purchase price allowed for
> this).
>
> Regards
>
> Kevin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
> Subject:  Subaru
>
>
> Can I ask a question that I feel is going to generate a whole raft of
> responses, being non technical, hopefully in words I can understand.
>
> The question is this:-
>
> What are the pros and cons re Rotax 912 vs. Subaru 100 hp.
>
> My tin hat is firmly attached !.
>
> Many thanks in anticipation.
>
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